Three years ago Starlin Castro was a World Series piece. Now he is a bum who must be traded ASAP. How do those of us who aren't Cub fans know when a guy stops being a World Series piece?

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castro could very well still be one. just not with the cubs. theo/jed have ruined the guy.

When he starts playing for the Sox!

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When they start to suck

Castro was a piece to be traded. Like when Theo traded Nomar to the Cubs before he lost his value. Theo waited too long and is stuck with G.Beckham II.

Praise be to theo!

A trade for Castro or a relocation from playing SS, has been discussed for Castro for years.

Almost everyone in baseball acknowledged his shortcomings which didnt work with what Theo likes to see. Lazy, Incosistant, very unselective...

The phrase 'World Series Piece" has probably only been used here, in this thread.

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What idiot gave him his long term deal?

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They played the Castro hand too long....should have moved him in offseason, hard to move guys having their worst season.

You are right, that Theo is a total idiot....we need Kenny in here!

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Desperate JORR.
This is getting sad.

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What exactly am I "desperate" for?

Cub fans speak with forked tongues. Castro sucks but it was smart to sign him to a long deal. It's like you guys live in your own little world. Nobody who isn't a Cub fan could possibly understand it.

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Signing him to a long term deal was suppose to help Theo trade him. Like we said before, Theo waited too long!

Praise be to Theo.

Yup. Only Cubs fans change their minds or "evolve" their opinions. No other fan base would ever do such a thing. Remind me again if the Sox & their fans wanted to be sellers or buyers at the trade deadline?

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It is possible to sign someone....or even marry them......and find a better option.

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Well, every Sox fan I know wanted to sell. I don't know a single one who thought this team had any chance at the trade deadline.

Seriously though, the emotions seem so much greater with Cub fans. It's like either a guy is "Fuckin' Babe Ruth" or he's some bum that needs to be packaged with non-entity Alcantara for someone they think is good. The Sox actually had a first ballot Hall of Famer who is likely as close to being "Babe Fuckin' Ruth" as Chicago will ever see and I don't remember anyone getting as excited about him as Cub fans do about a guy when his first 100 at-bats are better than average.

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Castro signing looked good at time, now not looking so great.

You'd probably hear more complaints if the team wasnt on their hottest 25 game stretch since the 40's

I don't want to be misunderstood. I don't think the Castro deal is a bad one and I think he will hit if he's allowed to play. But when I listen or read stuff from Cub fans (NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE, BUT MANY, MANY, MANY OF THEM) it's like a mood swingy broad on her period. The fickleness is incredible. That's why I don't put any stock in what any Cub fan says or thinks about Bryant or Schwarber or anyone. He may just be the next Castro.

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People were crazy about Frank when he came up. All the late 80's early 90s guys got a lot of hype.


Cubs get more coverage in general, which is the main issue in all of this.

Fickleness in sports fans is incredible? I find it rather common across all sports and fans.

And that's fine that you dont put stock in what Cub fans say.

I don't mind them getting more coverage when they're good and the Sox are horseshit, like now. They should get more coverage. And I don't really think they do get more coverage over time. It's the way the two teams are covered. If Theo had drafted Trayce Thompson there would be a front page story on him and his 1.300 OPS in his first ten games everyday. And if Schwarber had been taken by the Sox, most stories would be about how they spent a high pick on a guy who is just a DH. Do you really disagree with that?

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I think Cub fans are more prone to exaggeration than any other group I've ever seen. Castro was compared to Pete Rose. Now he's a piece of shit. There's never any middle ground when middle ground is where the vast majority of guys fall. It's happening right now. I say Bryant looks like Nick Swisher and it's taken as an insult, some diminishment of a player who is already assumed to be great. But in three years, I wouldn't be surprised if Cub fans were trying to shove Bryant out the door to make room for the newest latest and greatest at third base.

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The nail has been hit on the head.

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Looks like someone has spent the morning looking at IMU's posting history!

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No

Joe is the only person I've seen use phrases like ..

Castro is Pete Rose
Core 4
World series piece.

Its his own words being attributed to Cubs fans. Its a straw man argument with himself.

Your Swisher comp sucks, I've told ya why its no good. You were the guy saying Cubs fans are dumb for not wanting Rizzo to be Erik Karros.

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No.

But, all it takes is common sense to figure out why.

Theo and his colleagues have had great success drafting position players the past 10 years. Kenny Williams and the Sox organization haven't. One regime has the benefit of doubt.

Simple as that.

Yeah, guy, I invented #Core4.

You sound ridiculous. Rizzo is having one good year and already he's Hall of Fame bound. Chances are, he'll be forgotten like Jim Gentile.

Swisher is an excellent comp for Bryant. You should hope he does that well over his next ten seasons.

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Bryant is a perennial 20-20 guy maybe 30-30 for a season or two. ... a Solid defender at multiple positions ...Not A Switch hitter...They really have very little in common.


I've never used that core 4 or Comparing Schwarber to Ruth..its dumb. Schwarber reminds me of Kevin Mitchell. I've said since day one I'd trade him for Rodon in a heartbeat. He's a liability at any position ..I don't see that ever changing.

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How in the hell do you know he can play 4 defensive positions, that is a stretch?

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I forgot first base ...5

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But he has only played 3rd and very little left, and he hasn't exactly mastered 3rd base. No way of knowing if he can play those positions at a Major League level.

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I truly dont pay enough attention to how both teams are covered to say how it would be covered on the Sox side.