Rizzo is solid evidence of:

1) The Cubs front office can evaluate young talent,
2) Young players can and do struggle at the major league level but can turn into very good players with reps.

It gives me hope that guys like Baez will improve significantly over time based on #2 above.

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strong and accurate right over the cutoff man's head, allowing the runner extra bases....like all the time.

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See, that's what I'm talking about. You're convinced that Bryant is a far superior player to Eaton, not based on anything on the field, but based on what you've read and your hopes and dreams. Maybe Bryant will have the better career. But he has no position. Let's say he's a 120 OPS+ guy bouncing around and winding up at first and Eaton is a 112 guy at a premium position for ten years. I don't think it's clear cut which is better and I think those are pretty reasonable outlooks.

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Hendry drafted Baez. That gets forgotten when he is playing well.

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JORR all prospects are hopes and dreams. I doubt any GM would rather have Eaton over Bryant. Bryant has given us a glimpse of his great potential, which was also clearly demonstrated in the minor leagues. Power hitting is the premium right now in the majors.

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Imaginary TV.

Yeap, and why I noted my hope is based on bullet point 2. It is not lost on me. I was merely stating that players can struggle early and then figure it out.

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Eaton had a bad first half to this year. He has been better than the average used to describe him for 3/4 of his Sox career. I am fine with him moving ahead.

I think he is miscast as a leadoff hitter. Luckily, the Sox have their own future HOF minor leaguers who appear ready for that role.

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He's a 3rd baseman.

I'd take Eaton for the Cubs. But given the choice, I take Bryant over Eaton six days a week and twice on Sunday,

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Bullshit.

Bryant has been in the majors for one year. Im judging off of that. Bryant's numbers (OPS) are better than Eaton's career high so far. ALL based on the field. What you just wrote is absolutely false.

This is what I (and everyone who reads this board) am/are talking about. You are like a lawyer. You twist everything Cub fans say to fit your narrative even after being corrected.

Its useless to even discuss either Chicago team with you.

at FIRST?! right, they'll move Rizzo and put the kid at first. Of course.

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he needs to work on avoiding running into his teammates as well. like every 3 games he's putting cabrera's or garcia's lives in danger.

it's like if he has an inherent urge to crash into hard object so if it can't be a wall it'll be his teammates' shoulder.

Hey?!

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He had an awful April. He was ok in May, good in June, outstanding in July and ok again in August. I think going forward he'll be fine but obviously he has to get more consistent. A team can't afford to have it's leadoff guy having such a roller coaster season.

That's neither here nor there. GMs are wrong all the time. Sometimes they trade All_Stars for Ian Stewart. The point I'm trying to make is that you're predisposed to believe Bryant is better than almost anyone.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

or we thought he could be better than most because he destroyed pitching in the minors ....

MLB thought the exact same thing. He is their media darling, they want him to be a star, thus you will getting a TON of Bryant propaganda for the next 5 years. Brace yourself!!!


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No, not the minors. In the Majors Bryant has outperformed Eaton. Its that simple. He's a better player so far.

He's a better offensive player so far. Over time, will his offense be enough better to make up for his defensive shortcomings? Probably not if they keep him at third base. If they can hide him in left or at first.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I don't think Eaton is bad...I just don't think he's anything special. They have bigger problems with the names Alexei, LaRoche, Sanchez, Beckham, and Flowers that are in the lineup every day. He's a decent player on a really shitty team.

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Over time Kris Bryant will be a far better player than Adam Eaton. Keep your metrics in the front shirt pocket on this one.

Stop yourself

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He'll likely improve defensive at 3rd.

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That may be, but I have zero doubt you would have said the same about Castro three years ago.

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totally offtopic

There was a thread on Soxtalk.com today critical of JR. It linked to an article on one of their "partner" sites: Soxnet.com (get it? neither do I)

Anyway it was a very good history of JR's ownership blunders. Within an hour all trace of that article or reference to it: GONE!

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OK, you can drop Castro.....if he was on the Southside him and then "Latin Culture" would have been the best thing going....

The problem with Castro right now is that he isnt playing to the future value of his deal. The deal isnt bad if he played to the stat he had during the first 3 years of his career.

The gave Castro a deal based on 3 years of play. Eaton got a contract based on a 1/2 a season. Eaton is a journeyman OF and Castro is headed to that level. In a twist of reality, if Castro tried as hard as Eaton did, Castro would make a huge improvement.

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I recall most people liking his offense and disapproving of his lack of focus defensively his first couple years. Being excited about a RoY candidate and multiple all star isn't really odd.

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Yep, better so far (not just offensively, but overall, His offense is worth more than the whole Eaton package), ON THE FIELD. Has nothing to do with hopes and dreams like you wish it did.

But if he was a Cub he'd be a key piece. It's silly. Is Eaton outperforming Addison Russell?

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

So then you admit that Adam Eaton is better than Addison Russell?

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

He had a good 2014, not just half a season.

Fowler had to get white hot to approach Eaton's down year this year and Fowler is going to be a 20 million dollar per year player according to Jesse

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