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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:49 pm 
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Bottom line, is to sign Fowler to anything more than a one year deal with a club option would be a mistake. To block Almora's path as the next cornerstone piece would be stupid.

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Bottom line, is to sign Fowler to anything more than a one year deal with a club option would be a mistake. To block Almora's path as the next cornerstone piece would be stupid.

I will agree with Fowler, but maybe a 2 year deal, with trade rights. Almora is 3 steps away right now and I am not counting on him, but I will be happy to look for a trade partner for Soler. I am not desperate to trade him, but if you can upgrade in RF now, you do it. Whether FA or trade, if you got a FA, you then need to trade Soler.

Justin Upton?

heyward?

and then is Cespedes? 27....Stud defender, big time bat. Eeverything Soler might be offensively, but the defense is the difference....and not slighting Soler, but to have him and Schwarber in the OF, ouch!

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:56 pm 
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Bottom line, is to sign Fowler to anything more than a one year deal with a club option would be a mistake. To block Almora's path as the next cornerstone piece would be stupid.

No shit, Sherlock. Your misplaced comma only cements your dipshit status.

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:11 pm 
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Bottom line, is to sign Fowler to anything more than a one year deal with a club option would be a mistake. To block Almora's path as the next cornerstone piece would be stupid.

I will agree with Fowler, but maybe a 2 year deal, with trade rights. Almora is 3 steps away right now and I am not counting on him, but I will be happy to look for a trade partner for Soler. I am not desperate to trade him, but if you can upgrade in RF now, you do it. Whether FA or trade, if you got a FA, you then need to trade Soler.

Justin Upton?

heyward?

and then is Cespedes? 27....Stud defender, big time bat. Eeverything Soler might be offensively, but the defense is the difference....and not slighting Soler, but to have him and Schwarber in the OF, ouch!


Yeah, Soler has been disappointing as a defender. I don't see him ever being a plus defender and unless Schwarber does actually develop into a major league Catcher (able to catch everyday and not be a liability) there is no doubt that it's a less than stellar defensive outfield. But the boys can rake!

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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Bottom line, is to sign Fowler to anything more than a one year deal with a club option would be a mistake. To block Almora's path as the next cornerstone piece would be stupid.

No shit, Sherlock. Your misplaced comma only cements your dipshit status.


My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months. What a sad human being you are....Maybe if you drink enough you can drown whatever sorrows ail you.

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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Mr. Reason wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Bottom line, is to sign Fowler to anything more than a one year deal with a club option would be a mistake. To block Almora's path as the next cornerstone piece would be stupid.

No shit, Sherlock. Your misplaced comma only cements your dipshit status.


My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months. What a sad human being you are....Maybe if you drink enough you can drown whatever sorrows ail you.

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Bottom line, is to sign Fowler to anything more than a one year deal with a club option would be a mistake. To block Almora's path as the next cornerstone piece would be stupid.

No shit, Sherlock. Your misplaced comma only cements your dipshit status.


My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months.


So what's your excuse?


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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months.

You chose quantity. Others choose quality.

Anyway, Fowler is better than Almora in 2016 and 2017. You have to factor in Fowler as a lead-off hitter, which Almora does not project to be. It is likely that Fowler will always be a better offensive player than Almora. Many of the Cubs' recent prospects have worked out - they won't all. The Cubs are a winning team NOW. You definitely offer Fowler a competitive deal and then it is up to him if he takes it. Almora can always be packaged for pitching.

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months.

You chose quantity. Others choose quality.

Anyway, Fowler is better than Almora in 2016 and 2017. You have to factor in Fowler as a lead-off hitter, which Almora does not project to be. It is likely that Fowler will always be a better offensive player than Almora. Many of the Cubs' recent prospects have worked out - they won't all. The Cubs are a winning team NOW. You definitely offer Fowler a competitive deal and then it is up to him if he takes it. Almora can always be packaged for pitching.

Two fucking years no more. If he no like go away. Not hard to understand. We talking Dexter Fowler here. Not a 23 year old Kenny Lofton for crissakes.


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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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IMU wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months.

You chose quantity. Others choose quality.

Anyway, Fowler is better than Almora in 2016 and 2017. You have to factor in Fowler as a lead-off hitter, which Almora does not project to be. It is likely that Fowler will always be a better offensive player than Almora. Many of the Cubs' recent prospects have worked out - they won't all. The Cubs are a winning team NOW. You definitely offer Fowler a competitive deal and then it is up to him if he takes it. Almora can always be packaged for pitching.

It's pretty cool that we're even having this discussion, no?

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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Mr. Reason wrote:
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My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months.

You chose quantity. Others choose quality.

Anyway, Fowler is better than Almora in 2016 and 2017. You have to factor in Fowler as a lead-off hitter, which Almora does not project to be. It is likely that Fowler will always be a better offensive player than Almora. Many of the Cubs' recent prospects have worked out - they won't all. The Cubs are a winning team NOW. You definitely offer Fowler a competitive deal and then it is up to him if he takes it. Almora can always be packaged for pitching.

It's pretty cool that we're even having this discussion, no?

With whom is Steve having a discussion with? IMU is talking some sense but what becomes of his beloved Castro?


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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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Dexter Fowler brings a lot to this ballclub. Don't underestimate his impact. The Cubs have had bad leadoff men for a long time. Don't be so quick to go back to that.

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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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Dexter Fowler brings a lot to this ballclub. Don't underestimate his impact. The Cubs have had bad leadoff men for a long time. Don't be so quick to go back to that.

He has been outstanding the last three weeks. If he can keep it up the next two months, we may have something to talk about. No matter what he does, I'm not ready to give him a long term contract. He was brought in as a stop gap. He has filled that role admirably the last month. They gave up nothing to get him and will give up nothing to keep him. His value, going forward, is a 2016 draft pick, nothing more.

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Dexter Fowler brings a lot to this ballclub. Don't underestimate his impact. The Cubs have had bad leadoff men for a long time. Don't be so quick to go back to that.

Where was the mighty Dexter in April-mid July? Castro country. I will take this recent version but not at a three year high price. No way.


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 Post subject: Re: Brave @ Cub
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My God, I'll bet you haven't gotten laid in months.

You chose quantity. Others choose quality.

Anyway, Fowler is better than Almora in 2016 and 2017. You have to factor in Fowler as a lead-off hitter, which Almora does not project to be. It is likely that Fowler will always be a better offensive player than Almora. Many of the Cubs' recent prospects have worked out - they won't all. The Cubs are a winning team NOW. You definitely offer Fowler a competitive deal and then it is up to him if he takes it. Almora can always be packaged for pitching.


I agree that Fowler would be the choice for 2016. However, I disagree about 2017. I believe Almora will be ready by this time next season and join the team for September call-ups, if not before and be ready to take over CF in 2017. I could see no more than a 2 year deal for Fowler. Ideally the 2nd year is a club option, but if it has to be guaranteed, I guess that is okay, just as insurance, in the event Almora were to struggle with major league pitching to any great degree. After all, at that point they will be contending for a championship, as they will already in 2016.

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Fowler out for two days, two Cubs losses where the Cubs couldn't score runs.

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Fowler out for two days, two Cubs losses where the Cubs couldn't score runs.

Pay that man.


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Fowler out for two days, two Cubs losses where the Cubs couldn't score runs.

No real connection. JORR agrees.


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Except that the Cubs play like .800 ball when Fowler gets on base twice in a game.

Metrics, bruh.

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Except that the Cubs play like .800 ball when Fowler gets on base twice in a game.

Metrics, bruh.

But depending on Dexter is like depending on the elderly to shit the bed.


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Except that the Cubs play like .800 ball when Fowler gets on base twice in a game.

Metrics, bruh.

But depending on Dexter is like depending on the elderly to shit the bed.



So...good, then?

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The good news is that the Cubs will still probably win this game. The bad news is that our pitching has gone down the shitter other than Arrieta.


yeah exactly. not that i'm thinking they go far this year or anything but the starting rotation has some major holes.



Yeah, that's because they are a year ahead of schedule. After adding Zimmerman, Price, or some other top of the rotation starter, this problem will not exist. Great comeback today. Yes, Edwin Jackson helped the Cubs to another win. Makes sense, since they are paying most of his salary.
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