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I certainly have no interest in his social/political comments.

Yes you do.

You're listening.


Is it possible to separate the two?


Yes. Douchebag needs to go back to study hall.

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I was also feeling very disappointed in the B&B show last evening. Vesuvius and Kaner about did me in. As I was on a long drive I began contemplating whether I return to the show again on Monday. Finally I may have just had enough.

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I was also feeling very disappointed in the B&B show last evening. Vesuvius and Kaner about did me in. As I was on a long drive I began contemplating whether I return to the show again on Monday. Finally I may have just had enough.


You don't understand. This. Is. Rape.

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I often see the term "hate listen" used here and I totally get it... no matter the show or host.

However, it got me thinking about what I actually look forward to listening to on The Score? To be honest, not much these days.

So, most of my time tuning in is spent hate listening.

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I often see the term "hate listen" used here and I totally get it... no matter the show or host.

However, it got me thinking about what I actually look forward to listening to on The Score? To be honest, not much these days.

So, most of my time tuning in is spent hate listening.


I don't feel that way about the first 2 shows. More like "meh" Listening.

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I often see the term "hate listen" used here and I totally get it... no matter the show or host.

However, it got me thinking about what I actually look forward to listening to on The Score? To be honest, not much these days.

So, most of my time tuning in is spent hate listening.


I don't feel that way about the first 2 shows. More like "meh" Listening.


If I had to pick only one show to listen to all day on 670, it would be M & H, for sure, jimmyp.

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Agreed. M & H aren't great hosts and are corny, but they prepare, have good guests, and actually talk about sports.

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Agreed. M & H aren't great hosts and are corny, but they prepare, have good guests, and actually talk about sports.

I really like the guests they get. It's a great way to find out stuff first thing in the morning and see how the sports talk cycle is going to progress all day. If it's a big sports news day, I'll keep it on 670.

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Another thing Frank and I were ahead of the curve on.

Life's too short to be listen to something that makes you miserable.

Viva la reVolution!

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Another thing Frank and I were ahead of the curve on.

Life's too short to be listen to something that makes you miserable.

Viva la reVolution!

Agree thats why I stopped reading your posts.















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:lol:

That was a good one.

Who wrote it for you?

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That was a good one.

Who wrote it for you?

Obama

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I certainly have no interest in his social/political comments.

Yes you do.

You're listening.


Actually, I'm not able to listen much. I follow this board when I'm able too. I haven't actually heard any of the Kane comments, but this board did a good job of providing the details.


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I certainly have no interest in his social/political comments.

Yes you do.

You're listening.


Is it possible to separate the two?

That's my entire point. He claims he has no interest in Dan's social/political comments, but he posts about them multiple times every week. He's obviously interested.

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Godfella wrote:
I often see the term "hate listen" used here and I totally get it... no matter the show or host.

However, it got me thinking about what I actually look forward to listening to on The Score? To be honest, not much these days.

So, most of my time tuning in is spent hate listening.


Do any of the hosts on the Score disagree with Bernstein about any of his social positions? It's just frustrating that he goes unchallenged on everything he says, and he has less well-spoken or hosts who think they are deep thinkers (Holmes) repeating the same type of rhetoric without knowing what they are even talking about.


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Douchebag wrote:
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I certainly have no interest in his social/political comments.

Yes you do.

You're listening.


Is it possible to separate the two?

That's my entire point. He claims he has no interest in Dan's social/political comments, but he posts about them multiple times every week. He's obviously interested.


I'm more outraged by extreme points of view that go unchallenged. Now that the show has evolved into a sports show w/ Dan's social garbage, that type of show doesn't interest me. I will still respond to his lunatic comments on this board though.


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Lots of interest here.

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I have no interest in what Dan has to say, but here are the top 5 things he said every day this week that pissed me off.

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Agreed. M & H aren't great hosts and are corny, but they prepare, have good guests, and actually talk about sports.



Why would anyone check in with an all sports station in order to receive their sports information? It's far more interesting and important to hear sports talkers pontificate about rape, health, law, food, comic books, boobs, music, porn, their kids, etc. Haven't you heard?

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Agreed. M & H aren't great hosts and are corny, but they prepare, have good guests, and actually talk about sports.



Why would anyone check in with an all sports station in order to receive their sports information? It's far more interesting and important to hear sports talkers pontificate about rape, health, law, food, comic books, boobs, music, porn, their kids, etc. Haven't you heard?


It's funny because when I was younger and had a job that required me to be in the car all day, I didn't mind as much about the NPR-like style of Bernstein. Now that I'm older and only listen occasionally, it is awful. I listen to sports radio to hear about sports, which is sort of an "escape" from the actual important stuff we deal with in life. As a result, I find the social agenda radio bullshit to be terrible and if I listen, it's not for very long.

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Agreed. M & H aren't great hosts and are corny, but they prepare, have good guests, and actually talk about sports.



Why would anyone check in with an all sports station in order to receive their sports information? It's far more interesting and important to hear sports talkers pontificate about rape, health, law, food, comic books, boobs, music, porn, their kids, etc. Haven't you heard?


It's funny because when I was younger and had a job that required me to be in the car all day, I didn't mind as much about the NPR-like style of Bernstein. Now that I'm older and only listen occasionally, it is awful. I listen to sports radio to hear about sports, which is sort of an "escape" from the actual important stuff we deal with in life. As a result, I find the social agenda radio bullshit to be terrible and if I listen, it's not for very long.

I don't listen at all.

I'm 100% serious

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Agreed. M & H aren't great hosts and are corny, but they prepare, have good guests, and actually talk about sports.



Why would anyone check in with an all sports station in order to receive their sports information? It's far more interesting and important to hear sports talkers pontificate about rape, health, law, food, comic books, boobs, music, porn, their kids, etc. Haven't you heard?


It's funny because when I was younger and had a job that required me to be in the car all day, I didn't mind as much about the NPR-like style of Bernstein. Now that I'm older and only listen occasionally, it is awful. I listen to sports radio to hear about sports, which is sort of an "escape" from the actual important stuff we deal with in life. As a result, I find the social agenda radio bullshit to be terrible and if I listen, it's not for very long.



I don't mind it every once in awhile, but they are social issue intensive these days. Even when they talk about actual sports it's always in the context of an athlete's personality. It's rarely about an athlete's actual performance. Sweeping generalizations are made about the guy's personality, and thus they have no use for them as a player. It just seems like it is simply too much work for them to actually watch the game. When I listened more that was the case. I don't think much has changed since then.

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Yeah, and it's too bad because 10 years ago when Bernstein actually tried to analyze sports, I enjoyed his takes on things. I didn't always agree, but he usually had a take that I at least hadn't thought about. In 2005 when the Bears went to the Super Bowl, B & B was appointment radio.

Now, even the few times when he does try to analyze sports, it's using words he doesn't understand (or are meaningless) or slurping Matt Bowen and other really smart analysts.

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Yeah, and it's too bad because 10 years ago when Bernstein actually tried to analyze sports, I enjoyed his takes on things. I didn't always agree, but he usually had a take that I at least hadn't thought about. In 2005 when the Bears went to the Super Bowl, B & B was appointment radio.

Now, even the few times when he does try to analyze sports, it's using words he doesn't understand (or are meaningless) or slurping Matt Bowen and other really smart analysts.




This is but one example of his sports unawareness. I was listening during NBA season and caught this nugget courtesy of Bernstein. "The Western Conference is better because they have better athletes". I wanted to call in and dispute it but I was at work. I thought to myself damn, when I think of the Warriors, Spurs, Grizzlies, Rockets, TrailBlazers, I really think about athletically superior teams. These teams really do wow you with their superior athletic ability.

If Mulligan would have said something like that it would not have been a big deal. Bernstein however, has always touted himself as a basketball guy though. He never misses an opportunity to use his CBA announcing days as a means of establishing basketball street cred. He shouldn't make statements that are this much of a misnomer.

It just highlighted how much his show deviates from sports these days. His discussion of the NBA revolves around LeBron James, Bulls talk around Derrick Rose, Bears talk around whomever the coach happens to be or Cutler etc.
These discussions are worked in only after non stop talk about social issues that may have some loose connection to sports.

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In 2005 when the Bears went to the Super Bowl, B & B was appointment radio.



well, 2007 from the 2006 season. but they were definitely a better listen than mj&h for me because mac was meatballing the hell out of everything and taking shots at my team and fanbase (nfc championship vs. the saints) a little too much.


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In 2005 when the Bears went to the Super Bowl, B & B was appointment radio.



well, 2007 from the 2006 season. but they were definitely a better listen than mj&h for me because mac was meatballing the hell out of everything and taking shots at my team and fanbase (nfc championship vs. the saints) a little too much.


I never got into MJH but it would be nice to have them now.

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yeah cos they had fun with talking sports. that's why i like east coast radio--most of the philly guys are fun to listen to. they don't try this "holier than thou" attitude (outside of howard eskin) and they like hearing from callers.


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have they mentioned the rose rape yet?

The Bulls don't need to be taken down a peg like the Blackhawks do.


is that what it is? i remember first discovering the rose rape news in the trib sports section (as there has to be like ~10ppl annually under the age of 75 who actually learn about BREAKING NEWS! from a newspaper in this digitally bygone era) on a friday that ended up being the day that the illinois football coach got the axe so b&b were all about that, and then the next week i dont remember them talking about it at all, but then again my old 75-90%+ listening ratio is way way lower these days.


Dan has always been resentful of the way the Blackhawks have been pushed on the sports market since McDonough came to the team. I have fuzzy memories of them announcing the hire back in October or November of 2007, then saying something like "people want to take calls on this. We're not taking calls on this" and moving on to Bears talk, who, to be fair, had gone to the Super Bowl the year before.

But as soon as the Blackhawks made the playoffs the next year, Dan started getting squirmy about the beat writers not being tough enough or the media being too openly pro-Hawks on the local news or corporate-sector bandwagoning in general, which is all McDonough stuff, of course. When they won the first championship the next season after that, Dan started talking about how it was time to take the training wheels off and start covering the Blackhawks like a "real" team. This always struck me as odd, considering the Score's coverage of the Bears was "real" in the sense that breast implants are real (factually speaking, they exist in this world, but that's clearly not what we mean here, ma'am), Dan was still in the throes of White Sox dick-sucking in 2010, and had also said that the Bulls signing LeBron James would be a bigger deal than the Blackhawks winning the Stanley Cup, so if the Hawks were going to start being covered like a real team, it sure as shit wasn't going to start with anyone at this station. The only real Hawks talk we got from the Score for the next three years was about why fighting is bad.

Kane's misadventures in Madison got Dan pretty excited because in 2012, Rose was still a benign manchild who hadn't yet betrayed the Really Smart People, so this was an opportunity to crow about how, in fact, the spoiled cute white kid was the dangerous scoundrel while the tattooed black guy from Englewood was actually the polite gentleman. I think he even said he'd rather have Derrick Rose show up on his doorstep to date his daughter than Patrick Kane, and in September 2015, the less said about this, folks, the better, so let's move on.

2013, the Blackhawks come out of the lockout, destroy everything in their path. Somewhere in there, Hossa is feted for 1,000 games or 1,000 points (I forget, maybe both), and Dan grumbles the next day that McDonough sure can lay on the schmaltz for an Irishman. DAT'S EXACLY RITE, FRITZY! DA MICKS ARE JUS LIKE DA JOOS! DEY BOAT MAKE GOOD LAWYERS CUZ DEY TALK SO GOOD! Hawks win the Cup a second time in four years, Dan gets annoyed that people are happy about this, says we need to sit in quiet contemplation about what this means. Translation: OH MY GOD SHUT UP I DON'T CARE LEAVE ME ALONE. Drinky adds during the parade that girls there deserve to get knocked up and not know who the father is. I wonder what else he feels girls who like hockey deserve as this story unfolds.

That brings us more or less to the present, where Dan tried to expose the adultery and cuckoldry going on in the dressing room, stepped in shit by cutting too close on a Cheryl Scott joke, but then had the rape story fall into his lap. Jackpot!

Bottom line, Dan talks about McDonough the way a boy with an Oedipus complex talks about his dad. "Hate my father? I love my father! I respect him so much. He's so great. There's nothing I could possibly dislike about my father! That he loves my mother doesn't bother me at all! I encourage it!" For how much he talks about respecting the job McDonough has done, I don't think he's very glad that McDonough did the job in the first place. How could he when he abhors the feel-good marketing blitzes and complicit media that compose it? Dan fancies himself a journalist when he's not telling people the Bulls will do nothing wrong, or rooting for Theo and the mayor to use their secret Jewish Wondertwin powers to build billboards at Wrigley Field, so the support the Blackhawks have gotten from the media has always rubbed him the wrong way.

Don't get me wrong: the Patrick Kane story is hugely important because arguably the best player in franchise history has almost certainly ended his career in Chicago, if not his career altogether, because he's a terrible drunk and almost certainly raped someone. The happy era of the Blackhawks is now over; the empire is officially in sleazy decline. I mean, this shit makes a Fleetwood Mac episode of Behind The Music look tidy. Having something built so well come crashing down like this certainly deserves dedicated coverage, but I don't doubt for a minute that this is personal for Dan. All the years of standing athwart the McDonough marketing machine and "talk more hockey" callers has built up to this for him. The Hawks being elite has been nothing but a nuisance, if not an offense of his personal sensibilities, for him, and now he's going to relish and take part in the dismantling of the machine. You want to talk more hockey? Here's your hockey. You've been worshiping a false idol all along. With this, we can all stop pretending we like the Blackhawks and get back to what sports talk radio is supposed to be about in February: asking Terry Boers to guess the ten most statistically similar players to Corliss Williamson.

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You were doing ok until the last paragraph. If Kane isnt charged, why would the Hawks dump him? Even without Kane the Hawks are still one of the elite teams and organizations in the NHL, and their pipeline is loaded. The future is bright for the Hawks.

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Even without Kane the Hawks are still one of the elite teams and organizations in the NHL, and their pipeline is loaded.

Loaded with rapists.

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