I feel sorry for Sox fans these days. Their team is utter shit and will be for at least 10 years.

I feel bad for them when their team is good.

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You know me like that.

2005.

Sox Subdivison will twist everything you say. It's best just to spell it out for the stoopids.

Eaton over Fowler? No way

Robertson - Rondon.

Abreu - Rizzo.

Sale - Arrieta

These are the only ones in the discussion.

Everywhere else the Cubs are better.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I dunno. Rizzo is basically better across the board than Abreu.

I mean Eaton vs Fowler is a lot closer in my mind than Abreu vs Rizzo.

The problem for the sox fans is that Eaton is the Sox second best position player and Fowler is about the cubs 6th best.

I wasn't considering relief pitching, but I suppose that's fair. Rizzo has outplayed Abreu this year (though it's close) and Arrieta is currently the best pitcher in baseball. He has the most wins.

I wish I could come up with just one for the Sox, as I truly don't want them to be a joke. But I just can't lie.

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^"LIKE"^

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Even he's not sure. Give him another couple decades. He may decide.


Exactly ONE Sox fan mentioned ONE Sox player they thought was better.
And that was......not a very good suggestion.


Yes.
Yes. The Cubs are better at every position.

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Not even a mention. Cold.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Except they aren't. The Sox are better at first, short, and center and right, as well as the rotation and bullpen. They are at least as good at second. Do the Cubs even have a second baseman? It seems like they're playing second base roulette.

Anyway, you should be more concerned about whether the Cubs are better at any position than the Cardinals. I'll give them first base and center.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Damn, Robin must be a really terrible manager with all that talent.

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In 1969,the Cubs were better than the Mets at almost every position (Mets win in CF with Agee),but what good did that do them?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I'm not spending any time looking it up, but actually the Cubs are better at most starting positions. The Cardinals really clean up in bench depth, starters 2-6 and the 'pen

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1926-1931-1934-1942-1944-1946-1964-1967-1982-2006-2011

You might be high.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

They're not though. Like I said, they're better at first and center.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

That isn't much of an argument.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

He's got them in third place. The same place the second coming of John McGraw has the Cubs with a better a player at each position.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Abreu is not better than Rizzo, Alexei is not better than Russell, Eaton is not better than Fowler, the White Sox rotation is not as good as the Cubs rotation, and I don't know about the bullpens.

We're talking about NOW, not overall careers or the last four years. Each Cub in those comparisons has better statistics now.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I can see that JORR has abandoned his position that the Cubs will not make the playoffs.

You (and everyone else making this dumb argument) are jumping back and forth as it suits you. When the Cub guy isn't better on the numbers (like Sanchez vs. any Cub second baseman or Garcia v.s Soler) it comes down to some other criteria like "every GM would rather have the Cub" or some such nonsense.

Abreu is having probably his worst season and his numbers are similar to Rizzo in what is probably his best.

Eaton is most certainly better than Fowler any way you slice it. He's played two seasons and his OPS+ is comparable to the best Fowler has ever achieved plus Eaton is playing in what is widely considered the tougher league.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Point out where I've ever said anything that even closely resembles "every GM would rather have the Cub." You're fighting so many of these battles you can't even recall who says what now.



Many LOLs. Abreu is having his second season. Unless you want to start factoring in other professional leagues around the world when we discuss statistics, records, averages, etc? If you're saying this is his worst season and a fluke, I'd respond that last season was his best season and a fluke.



I sliced it OBP and OPS, which both have Dexter Fowler ahead. The AL is no longer the tougher league - I thought this season has made that extremely clear. And I'm not going to consider OPS+ because the US Cellular park factor is fucked this season with how putrid the White Sox offense has been. For a park that is usually near the top at Park Factor, it is at the bottom this season. Also, cute that you of all people would now want to reference an advanced metric like OPS+.

Now who is jumping back and forth?

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

If the Cubs are, why didn't they win the BP cup this year?

Cubs fans should be more concerned about being better than the Pirates, Cardinals, Dodgers, and Giants.

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I want to be better than 29 MLB teams.

Also, the same reason the Reds took 2 of 3 from the Cubs recently and the White Sox had a 2 game sweep of the Cardinals. Anything can happen in a small stretch over 162.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

JORR like most intelligent people don't consider losing in a one-game "play-in" game making it to the playoffs. What exactly are they trying to play INTO??

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

The BP Cup? Yeah, that matters a lot.

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Being better than the Sox? Yeah, that matters a lot.

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You think the Sox are currently better than the Cubs?

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You don't want to be better, you want to be competitive.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.