I've always heard OPS+ is a superior stat to OPS. Maybe I've heard wrong.

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LOL!

Comment of the day

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so cubs are getting obliterated for season's performance....why?

He slugged 50 points higher and got on base about the same. I'd call that significant. I'd call 50 more total bases pretty significant too.

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How about how many GMs would rather have the guy?

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But that would fuck up their Fowler > Eaton argument.

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OPS is a statistic. It cannot be argued. TB, walks, HBP...things that actually happen.

OPS+ can be useful, but it also can be very misleading. Again, it compares Abreu to his peers. And in this case, his peers are people that have many AB / PA at US Cellular field. And of course, most AB / PA would be from that ballpark's hometeam. And if those players are doing terrible, it brings down the Park Factor of that ballpark. So Abreu is now being compared against a bunch of people having a terrible year.

Conversely, many Cubs are having pretty solid offensive seasons. So the difference in OPS+ is actually saying "Abreu is 150% as good as the average White Sox / US Cellular visitor, and Rizzo is only 140% better than the average Cub / Wrigley visitor."

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But Rizzos 50 point higher obp is....not significant

Before Bryan gets mad, I would like to point out he has never made that argument.

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Ha...just yo be clear, absolutely that is the only way to judge a team

The park adjustment is run differential for three years. It includes sox and visitor. Why would sox being bad effect their home road scoring differential?

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Because fuck the Cubs

Fuck em in the ear, fuck em in the other ear

Actually, it's not. It hasn't resulted in him scoring any more runs than Abreu. This could lead us away from Cubs/Sox to a more productive discussion. As a philosophy, I am of the belief that if you aren't scoring a run and you're not driving one in, you're not doing a whole lot. All that extra OBP from Rizzo and for what? So he can score less runs than Abreu?

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It was lucky. It would have been a flyout on a 70 degree calm day.

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Percentage of at bats. Isn't that obvious?

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I believe the numbers show that Obp correlates,with winning more than any other offensive stat

Show me the math if you're going to make an outrageous claim.

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I think Jorr started this thread to get away from the Addison Russell thread, where he looked like a fool..oops



I once remember a guy sayibg "Csfmb is a dangerous place when you're full of shit" oops

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Would it? I'm not a G.M. ...I've never used that "every GM" statement...but if both were unrestricted F A's. Next year...Fowler is more sought after n making more money.

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Pretty sure you're wrong once again.

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Out of all this trolling and nonsense, the dumbest Sox line is making fun of the Cubs for being in 3rd place, as though there is no context to their 3rd place status. They just happen to play in the best division in baseball and are leading the wild card by a number of games. And on top of that... the Sox are terrible.

If you're gonna troll, at least do it right.

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you posted about it

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Exhibit A.

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It does not make me happy either. I want the Sox to be good. It would make these threads more interesting.

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The context is that a couple short seasons ago, the losing didn't matter because only Championships mattered. Now that mantra has completely changed.

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This guy gets it.

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Is it ok for us to speculate when Arrieta has a season ending injury at least?

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I don't know what this means. There is one team in Chicago that has a shot to win a championship this year, and it ain't the Sox.

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Go Hawks!

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That may be generally true.

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