My excuse for being sober most weeknights?

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Besides that, Sale has almost the same FIP in a league with the DH and far better K and K/W numbers. But I guess we're going to worry about stuff that is beyond the pitcher's control when it suits our argument.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Are you really so obtuse as to be unaware that you are widely considered the dumbest motherfucker in this forum by both Cub and Sox fans?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

No your excuse for being you. I have no place for board bannings but you will screw yourself again soon enough. I am going to do my best to ignore you so fuck off. Done with you.

You are the smartest only in your own mind.

I'll bet you a dollar you can't go 24 hours without replying to or quoting this post, Scoots.

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Better get over to the Cardinal thread and join your fellow reasonable Cub fans who are banding together to get the best manager in baseball fired.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

JORR, you gonna respond to this one?

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I have no idea what the game scores add up to. And anyway, I'm not a big fan of them.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Weak. Be a man and confront your fellow Sox fans.

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Personally, I would like to hear your excuse for being sober on a weeknight.

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You know me like that.

I assume if he posted it he most know Sale is higher. But maybe not.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Not.

Great point.

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Goddamnit JORR... if you're gonna take the stance that wins are the greatest indicator of success, at least concede that Arrieta has been better than Sale this year. It's a small sacrifice to maintain any semblance of consistency.

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No no... not those wins. Those are different.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

You must have missed my post earlier in this thread, leash. It says exactly that. First post on page 5.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I know leash missed my post. You I'll assume are illiterate.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

I'll try not to be offended that you don't capitalize my handle. Joe tells me to forgive you (Maddon, not Orr).

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Ehhh...

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Favrefan is laughing at your post. Before long, you'll be spoon feeding dobermans and mumbling to them about RBI's.

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It's not capitalized. I try to use the handles as their creators intended.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Touche'

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Show me the metrics that you're choosing to go with.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

So there's no confusion here, I think Arrieta is having a better season than Sale. That's largely based on W/L record (among other things). But you've repeatedly insisted that a pitcher be judged solely on the "things he can control". Those things are generally considered to be strikeouts, walks, and to a somewhat lesser degree, home runs. From a modern analytic standpoint, there is little doubt Sale's season is better. Simply put, he misses more bats. In addition, he walks fewer batters. The only thing he "controls" where he does worse than Arrieta is home runs allowed. And I would suggest that many of those homers allowed by Sale are "lucky home runs" in hitter friendly U.S. Cellular Field. Or does that only apply when Jose Abreu is batting?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Keep the ball down is universal to every ballpark. Additionally, you may have noticed how Wrigley Field has been playing in late summer? Go see how many home runs Arrieta is giving up. Anyway... a pitcher also has an influence on hits. You can tell because good pitchers give up less hits. Arrieta has a better WHIP. Arrieta has a better FIP. Their bb/9 are extremely close. And strikeouts versus outs don't matter when looking at final results like we are. A pitcher is trying to get outs while giving up no runs, or very few runs.

Arrieta does it better than anyone except Greinke this season...and has been top 5-10 since last season.

Go find me the SABR guy that says Sale is doing better in 2015. Until then...you're making up more shit than 312player.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Shots fired

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Fangraphs player value stat. Sale>Arrieta. There you go.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

sale has the disadvantage of performing in zombie atmosphere.

i think he's just going through the motions. you gotta believe it's not fun showing up for work at the cell.