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How many of you feel sorry for these "refugees" who were burning the American flag and wishing death to you just a few months ago?

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How many of you feel sorry for these "refugees" who were burning the American flag and wishing death to you just a few months ago?

Why do you insist on categorizing all Muslims into one group? You definitely got some chas/Elmhurst Steve in you when it comes to this topic.

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How many of you feel sorry for these "refugees" who were burning the American flag and wishing death to you just a few months ago?

Why do you insist on categorizing all Muslims into one group? You definitely got some chas/Elmhurst Steve in you when it comes to this topic.



The same way I categorize all KKK members into one group. Because they willingly belong to said group. If you can show me a single nation where Muslims are a majority and non-Muslims aren't persecuted (to say nothing of the rights of homosexuals and women) you may be able to convince me of whatever argument you think you are making.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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How many of you feel sorry for these "refugees" who were burning the American flag and wishing death to you just a few months ago?

Why do you insist on categorizing all Muslims into one group? You definitely got some chas/Elmhurst Steve in you when it comes to this topic.



The same way I categorize all KKK members into one group. Because they willingly belong to said group. If you can show me a single nation where Muslims are a majority and non-Muslims aren't persecuted (to say nothing of the rights of homosexuals and women) you may be able to convince me of whatever argument you think you are making.


False equivalence.

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How many of you feel sorry for these "refugees" who were burning the American flag and wishing death to you just a few months ago?

Why do you insist on categorizing all Muslims into one group? You definitely got some chas/Elmhurst Steve in you when it comes to this topic.



The same way I categorize all KKK members into one group. Because they willingly belong to said group. If you can show me a single nation where Muslims are a majority and non-Muslims aren't persecuted (to say nothing of the rights of homosexuals and women) you may be able to convince me of whatever argument you think you are making.


False equivalence.


Why? Because one is a larger and more powerful group?

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One group isn't a hate group. More Muslims are attacked by radicals than anyone else in the world. #Facts

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One group isn't a hate group.



Tell that to the homosexuals being dropped from buildings and the women being buried in the sand up to their necks and then stoned.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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One group isn't a hate group.



Tell that to the homosexuals being dropped from buildings and the women being buried in the sand up to their necks and then stoned.

Radical Islamic violence is a problem. Bigotry is also a problem. Nas and I are talking about the latter here, and all you want to do is talk about the former. If you think all Muslims are violent and/or condone violence against non-Muslims, there is no helping you. You're purposely looking at this narrow-mindedly. It must be personal for one reason or another.

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FavreFan wrote:
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One group isn't a hate group.



Tell that to the homosexuals being dropped from buildings and the women being buried in the sand up to their necks and then stoned.

Radical Islamic violence is a problem. Bigotry is also a problem. Nas and I are talking about the latter here, and all you want to do is talk about the former. If you think all Muslims are violent and/or condone violence against non-Muslims, there is no helping you. You're purposely looking at this narrow-mindedly. It must be personal for one reason or another.


I don't think all KKK members are violent either. In fact I'm sure they are not. But they do all share an abhorrent belief system. I think Islam is an abhorrent belief system. Period.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
One group isn't a hate group.



Tell that to the homosexuals being dropped from buildings and the women being buried in the sand up to their necks and then stoned.


Are you talking about other Muslims being attacked by radical Muslims? Were the Muslims being murdered also evil? How often does a KKK member get murdered by another?

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Nas wrote:
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One group isn't a hate group.



Tell that to the homosexuals being dropped from buildings and the women being buried in the sand up to their necks and then stoned.


Are you talking about other Muslims being attacked by radical Muslims? Were the Muslims being murdered also evil? How often does a KKK member get murdered by another?


If the "other Muslims" are the large and powerful majority you seem to believe they are, how could a tiny minority of lunatics possibly get away with what they do? Why aren't there 5000 nice Muslims standing in front of the poor woman who was raped and then got stoned for it?

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If the "other Muslims" are the large and powerful majority you seem to believe they are, how could a tiny minority of lunatics possibly get away with what they do? Why aren't there 5000 nice Muslims standing in front of the poor woman who was raped and then got stoned for it?

Why is there so much gun violence in Chicago? Why aren't there 5000 nice Chicagoans standing in front of the people being gunned down every weekend?

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JORR's insistence on categorizing all Muslims as violent terrorists is disturbing.

But I don't want any refugees here.

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JORR's insistence on categorizing all Muslims as violent terrorists is disturbing.

But I don't want any refugees here.


But why not? If I really believed they were refugees and willing to embrace Western values, I'd have no problem taking them in. In fact, I think it would be inhumane not to. But there's a lot of evidence to suggest they aren't simply seeking asylum, but rather are specifically targeting Europe, i.e. Germany, France as a destination.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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JORR's insistence on categorizing all Muslims as violent terrorists is disturbing.

But I don't want any refugees here.


But why not? If I really believed they were refugees and willing to embrace Western values, I'd have no problem taking them in. In fact, I think it would be inhumane not to. But there's a lot of evidence to suggest they aren't simply seeking asylum, but rather are specifically targeting Europe, i.e. Germany, France as a destination.

Is there credible evidence? I've seen a lot of things like the picture of the ISIS flag in Germany that was debunked. If you could show me what you say is a lot of evidence, I may change my mind and agree with you. I don't think there is a lot of evidence suggesting these are not legitimate refugees.

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If the "other Muslims" are the large and powerful majority you seem to believe they are, how could a tiny minority of lunatics possibly get away with what they do? Why aren't there 5000 nice Muslims standing in front of the poor woman who was raped and then got stoned for it?

Why is there so much gun violence in Chicago? Why aren't there 5000 nice Chicagoans standing in front of the people being gunned down every weekend?


Now there's some false equivalence. Take note, Nas. Unlike ritual stonings and beheadings, drive-by shootings aren't ceremonial nor are they supported by government/religious edict.

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JORR's insistence on categorizing all Muslims as violent terrorists is disturbing.

But I don't want any refugees here.

If they're willing to assimilate we should be welcoming them with open arms.

Though I have no idea how you determine that. :lol:


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JORR's insistence on categorizing all Muslims as violent terrorists is disturbing.

But I don't want any refugees here.

If they're willing to assimilate we should be welcoming them with open arms.

Though I have no idea how you determine that. :lol:


Ask them? I say we ask the same of everyone in America.

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How about they stay in their home countries and fight for themselves instead of running away and asking us to do the fighting for them?

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Nas wrote:
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JORR's insistence on categorizing all Muslims as violent terrorists is disturbing.

But I don't want any refugees here.

If they're willing to assimilate we should be welcoming them with open arms.

Though I have no idea how you determine that. :lol:


Ask them? I say we ask the same of everyone in America.


If you want to do that then you have to get rid of all the free interpreters at government service buildings, and press 1 for English prompts and dual language forms at the DMV and such

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How about they stay in their home countries and fight for themselves instead of running away and asking us to do the fighting for them?

You can't even drive a garbage truck without crippling yourself, and you are criticizing these refugees for not being manly?

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How about they stay in their home countries and fight for themselves instead of running away and asking us to do the fighting for them?

You can't even drive a garbage truck without crippling yourself, and you are criticizing these refugees for not being manly?


hey I wasn't driving

Edit: Plus,Let us stay on subject and not drift off into pick on chas shit.

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How about they stay in their home countries and fight for themselves instead of running away and asking us to do the fighting for them?

You can't even drive a garbage truck without crippling yourself, and you are criticizing these refugees for not being manly?


hey I wasn't driving

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Fair enough.

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How about they stay in their home countries and fight for themselves instead of running away and asking us to do the fighting for them?


I agree. All the women and children should die like men instead of living like cowards. That young boy that washed ashore may have been the biggest coward I've ever seen.

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How about they stay in their home countries and fight for themselves instead of running away and asking us to do the fighting for them?


I agree. All the women and children should die like men instead of living like cowards. That young boy that washed ashore may have been the biggest coward I've ever seen.


I said before the women,children and elderly can have asylum till the fight is over. The men have to go back and fight. When it is done they go back home.

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How about they stay in their home countries and fight for themselves instead of running away and asking us to do the fighting for them?


I agree. All the women and children should die like men instead of living like cowards. That young boy that washed ashore may have been the biggest coward I've ever seen.


I said before the women,children and elderly can have asylum till the fight is over. The men have to go back and fight. When it is done they go back home.


Makes sense to me

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How many of you feel sorry for these "refugees" who were burning the American flag and wishing death to you just a few months ago?

Why do you insist on categorizing all Muslims into one group? You definitely got some chas/Elmhurst Steve in you when it comes to this topic.



The same way I categorize all KKK members into one group. Because they willingly belong to said group. If you can show me a single nation where Muslims are a majority and non-Muslims aren't persecuted (to say nothing of the rights of homosexuals and women) you may be able to convince me of whatever argument you think you are making.


I do love it when someone has the balls to make a common sense point while knowing it will be shouted down.

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