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The Republican Party has made it relatively easy to levy the charge, but on this one I think the White House is off base. I don't really think that it's Trump's job to shout down fools. I also don't think he necessarily endorses it simply because he doesn't refute it.


I think he does endorse it. He was front and center in the birther movement. He claims that his investigation regarding Barry's citizenship turned up some info in Hawaii, and he will release when the time is right. :lol:

McCain was in a similar situation in 2008, where a woman at a rally accused Barry of being a Muslim, and McCain told her that he was a good family man, and an American citizen, but he had fundamental differences on the issues.

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The Republican Party has made it relatively easy to levy the charge, but on this one I think the White House is off base. I don't really think that it's Trump's job to shout down fools. I also don't think he necessarily endorses it simply because he doesn't refute it.


I think he does endorse it. He was front and center in the birther movement. He claims that his investigation regarding Barry's citizenship turned up some info in Hawaii, and he will release when the time is right. :lol:

McCain was in a similar situation in 2008, where a woman at a rally accused Barry of being a Muslim, and McCain told her that he was a good family man, and an American citizen, but he had fundamental differences on the issues.


Donald Trump is no John McCain.

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The Republican Party has made it relatively easy to levy the charge, but on this one I think the White House is off base. I don't really think that it's Trump's job to shout down fools. I also don't think he necessarily endorses it simply because he doesn't refute it.


That was my take on it. Why should he have to address every stupid comment or question. Unfortunately, if you still watch dumb shows like Meet the Press (which I do not) that really what it is now. A said this about B, what say you C?

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This whole article sounds a bit fishy. Snopes anyone? For one thing, a portion of it is over 2 months old and doesn't include the rest of the alleged statement. The David Duke without the baggage reference was around the time of the confederate flag controversy.

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I remember the McCain incident and the birther stuff is well known also. I think he may believe it also but I wouldn't go so far as to suggest he believes it because he doesn't denounce it. I also don't think it is necessarily his job to denounce every nutty thing said at a rally.

If that's the case, both Biden and Reid have said offensive things about Obama and their comments were not denounced.

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Ben Carson’s campaign slogan is “Heal. Inspire. Revive.” Yet Carson and his campaign continue to make blatant appeals to bigotry in order for political gain. And to have Carson’s campaign manager openly brag about it is especially disgusting.


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Ben Carson’s campaign slogan is “Heal. Inspire. Revive.” Yet Carson and his campaign continue to make blatant appeals to bigotry in order for political gain. And to have Carson’s campaign manager openly brag about it is especially disgusting.



I saw the not wanting a Muslim in office thing today what else are you referring to?

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This whole article sounds a bit fishy. Snopes anyone? For one thing, a portion of it is over 2 months old and doesn't include the rest of the alleged statement. The David Duke without the baggage reference was around the time of the confederate flag controversy.


are you calling into question the merits of addictinginfo.org???


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Ben Carson’s campaign slogan is “Heal. Inspire. Revive.” Yet Carson and his campaign continue to make blatant appeals to bigotry in order for political gain. And to have Carson’s campaign manager openly brag about it is especially disgusting.



I saw the not wanting a Muslim in office thing today what else are you referring to?


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f460316c63bc4a91a94aea1af7294c42/republican-ben-carson-embraces-benefits-muslim-criticism


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The White House should not be actively agitating partisan politics. Leave that shit to the RNC and DNC. Once you're elected, you should be above that nonsense.


This.

The Office of the President should be above the divisive rhetoric.

Considering this whole thing is not remotely accurate I think the Office of the President is handling it about right.

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Chus wrote:
long time guy wrote:
The Republican Party has made it relatively easy to levy the charge, but on this one I think the White House is off base. I don't really think that it's Trump's job to shout down fools. I also don't think he necessarily endorses it simply because he doesn't refute it.


I think he does endorse it. He was front and center in the birther movement. He claims that his investigation regarding Barry's citizenship turned up some info in Hawaii, and he will release when the time is right. :lol:

McCain was in a similar situation in 2008, where a woman at a rally accused Barry of being a Muslim, and McCain told her that he was a good family man, and an American citizen, but he had fundamental differences on the issues.


Donald Trump is no John McCain.


Exactly. Trump has never been captured by the Vietcong. I like people who don't get captured.

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Ben Carson’s campaign slogan is “Heal. Inspire. Revive.” Yet Carson and his campaign continue to make blatant appeals to bigotry in order for political gain. And to have Carson’s campaign manager openly brag about it is especially disgusting.

Hey, he said he would allow a muslim to be in congress if they were one of the good ones. See, he's not bad.

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Chus wrote:
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Chus wrote:
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The Republican Party has made it relatively easy to levy the charge, but on this one I think the White House is off base. I don't really think that it's Trump's job to shout down fools. I also don't think he necessarily endorses it simply because he doesn't refute it.


I think he does endorse it. He was front and center in the birther movement. He claims that his investigation regarding Barry's citizenship turned up some info in Hawaii, and he will release when the time is right. :lol:

McCain was in a similar situation in 2008, where a woman at a rally accused Barry of being a Muslim, and McCain told her that he was a good family man, and an American citizen, but he had fundamental differences on the issues.


Donald Trump is no John McCain.


Exactly. Trump has never been captured by the Vietcong. I like people who don't get captured.


Yep.

They're losers.

I like winners.

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Donald Trump is no John McCain.


Exactly. Trump has never been captured by the Vietcong. I like people who don't get captured.


Yep.

They're losers.

I like winners.


They're losers. If you elect me, everything will be terrific.

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Dont you have to criticize a persons race to be considered a racist? What would you call someone who criticizes a persons religion?


Sounds like the White House didnt like the POTUS being called a Muslim?

I thought there was nothing wrong with Muslims?

Esplain please?

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I don't even really disagree with the White House here, but isn't this inappropriate?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/09/21 ... ist-video/

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Just a few days ago, Donald Trump allowed a fan of his to state openly at one of his rallies that “President Obama is a Muslim” and “he’s not even an American.”

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The White House wasted no time releasing a response of their own about this verbal attack on the President.

In an official statement made by the White House, Mr. Earnest not only denounced Donald Trump but the entire Republican party, as well:

“People who hold these offensive views are part of Mr. Trump’s base. Mr. Trump himself would be the first to tell you that he’s got the biggest base of any Republican politician these days.”

He didn’t stop there, though.

The White House is making an absolutely unprecedented move by addressing the history of Republican racism via a press conference, full of their hypocrisies and lies. The fact that this came from the White House Press Secretary makes it that much more interesting. And, you know President Obama must have authorized it.

The entire press briefing appears on The White House’s YouTube channel and can be found HERE. For just the relevant parts, watch the video below.

Press Secretary Earnest then went on to further slam Republicans by citing concrete examples of their hateful past:

“Now what is also unfortunate is that Mr. Trump isn’t the first Republican politician to countenance these kinds of views in order to win votes. In fact, that is precisely what every Republican presidential candidate is doing when they decline to denounce Mr. Trump’s cynical strategy, because they are looking for those same votes.

Now other Republicans have successfully used this strategy as well. You will recall that one Republican congressman told a reporter that he was David Duke without the baggage. That congressman was elected by a majority of his colleagues in the House of Representatives to the third highest-ranking position in the House. Those same members of Congress blocked immigration reform. Those same members of Congress oppose reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act. Those same members of Congress couldn’t support a simple funding bill because they are eager to defend the confederate flag.

So those are the priorities of today’s Republican Party. And they will continue to be until someone in the Republican Party decides to summon the courage to stand up and change it.”


This isn’t hyperbole and the White House didn’t sugarcoat anything. They flat-out linked one bigot’s remarks at a Trump rally, to the entire Republican party, calling it their “priorities.”

Perhaps, we shouldn’t be surprised. President Obama did say things were going to get interesting in the fourth quarter of his presidency. We just weren’t sure exactly what he meant by that. It looks like Obama really doesn’t give a damn. He isn’t shying away from anything his last year in office.

Republicans had better be careful because this is one president that has nothing to lose.
The problem here is that they are using the same logic which is rightfully considered unfair when we talk about the Ferguson protesters, or Muslims, or pretty much any group where a small portion of the group does bad things.

One of the funniest things about politics is that we are somehow to believe that the Democratic Party isn't filled with a lot of racism too.

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Biden/Reid/Clinton/others proved that wasn't true in 2007.

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Biden/Reid/Clinton/others proved that wasn't true in 2007.


"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

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Biden/Reid/Clinton/others proved that wasn't true in 2007.
Proved that what wasn't true?

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Biden/Reid/Clinton/others proved that wasn't true in 2007.
Proved that what wasn't true?


That the Democratic party isn't filled with racists.

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Biden/Reid/Clinton/others proved that wasn't true in 2007.
Proved that what wasn't true?


That the Democratic party isn't filled with racists.
Are you saying that nominating a black man for President is proof that racism doesn't exist among the group that nominated them? Even those who fought to make them lose?

If so, what does it mean that he was elected to the general population of the United States?

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Biden and Reid definitely, but I agree with Bill Clinton's assertion that they played the race card on him in South Carolina.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Biden/Reid/Clinton/others proved that wasn't true in 2007.
Proved that what wasn't true?


That the Democratic party isn't filled with racists.
Are you saying that nominating a black man for President is proof that racism doesn't exist among the group that nominated them? Even those who fought to make them lose?

If so, what does it mean that he was elected to the general population of the United States?

There is far more racism on the right side. Doesnt mean there is none on the left, but it pales in comparison.


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There is far more racism on the right side. Doesnt mean there is none on the left, but it pales in comparison.


Yes. There is plenty of racism in the Democratic Party, however, unlike with the Republicans, racism isn't an actual plank of the Democratic platform.

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There is far more racism on the right side. Doesnt mean there is none on the left, but it pales in comparison.


Yes. There is plenty of racism in the Democratic Party, however, unlike with the Republicans, racism isn't an actual plank of the Democratic platform.
Except when a minority candidate who is a Republican is possible.

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Not all republicans are racist, but if you're racist, you're probably a republican.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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There is far more racism on the right side. Doesnt mean there is none on the left, but it pales in comparison.


Yes. There is plenty of racism in the Democratic Party, however, unlike with the Republicans, racism isn't an actual plank of the Democratic platform.
Except when a minority candidate who is a Republican is possible.

Scorehead is blacker than Ben Carson.

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Scorehead is blacker than Ben Carson.
I can't remember a single minority candidate put up by the Republicans that wasn't quickly put down as unqualified and simply a token candidate to be there until they put up a white male.

I understand that Carson and Cain may not have been the best candidates but even a guy like Rubio is getting the same treatment.

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Scorehead is blacker than Ben Carson.
I can't remember a single minority candidate put up by the Republicans that wasn't quickly put down as unqualified and simply a token candidate to be there until they put up a white male takes over.

I understand that Carson and Cain may not have been the best candidates but even a guy like Rubio is getting the same treatment.


Not to mention what the "feminist" party did to Palin and will do to Fiorina.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:26 am 
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Scorehead is blacker than Ben Carson.
I can't remember a single minority candidate put up by the Republicans that wasn't quickly put down as unqualified and simply a token candidate to be there until they put up a white male takes over.

I understand that Carson and Cain may not have been the best candidates but even a guy like Rubio is getting the same treatment.


Not to mention what the "feminist" party did to Palin and will do to Fiorina.

Talk about her actual record?


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