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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:41 am 
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unsophisticated analysis

You didn't even read the thread. This was a pre troll thread about baseball philosophy.

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:52 am 
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unsophisticated analysis

par for the course.


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If Cashner develops into a top flight starter.


huge if the player develops into a top flight starter, then huge if he can consistently stay a top flight starter.

take a look at sale. he's already washed up.

gimme the player taking the field 162 for 10 years. all day every day
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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
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Kirkwood wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
unsophisticated analysis

par for the course.


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If Cashner develops into a top flight starter.


huge if the player develops into a top flight starter, then huge if he can consistently stay a top flight starter.

take a look at sale. he's already washed up.

gimme the player taking the field 162 for 10 years. all day every day


This was 2012. Both players developing was theoretical.

The question was, top flight SP or top flight 1B value.

That philosophy is highlighted again with Schwarber and Rodon.

I still say give me the SP.

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I still say give me the SP.
If they had to choose between Rizzo and Arrieta are they choosing Rizzo?

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:19 am 
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good dolphin wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
unsophisticated analysis

par for the course.


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If Cashner develops into a top flight starter.


huge if the player develops into a top flight starter, then huge if he can consistently stay a top flight starter.

take a look at sale. he's already washed up.

gimme the player taking the field 162 for 10 years. all day every day


This was 2012. Both players developing was theoretical.

The question was, top flight SP or top flight 1B value.

That philosophy is highlighted again with Schwarber and Rodon.

I still say give me the SP.

one team is going to win 90 games
the other maybe 78
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good dolphin
 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:47 am 
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re read the thread from the start if you are going to bump it and comment on it

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
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8675309 wrote:
Drafting for position over talent is always the smart play.
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great thought

the question is a top of the rotation starter v. a top position player. We have already assumed the talent is fully actualized.

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8675309 wrote:
Drafting for position over talent is always the smart play.
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great thought

the question is a top of the rotation starter v. a top position player. We have already assumed the talent is fully actualized.


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re read the thread from the start if you are going to bump it and comment on it

your criticism of rizzo/cashner trade is based on the premise premier pitching is superior to premier hitting.

don't run away from your well-known position that the cubs lost that trade b/c premier pitching>premier hitting.

what you blindly ignore is "premier" pitching is volatile as seen by ya boy sale. hitting much easier to project, stay consistent, stay healthy and harder to procure.
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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:04 pm 
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Kirkwood wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
re read the thread from the start if you are going to bump it and comment on it

your criticism of rizzo/cashner trade is based on the premise premier pitching is superior to premier hitting.

don't run away from your well-known position that the cubs lost that trade b/c premier pitching>premier hitting.

what you blindly ignore is "premier" pitching is volatile as seen by ya boy sale. hitting much easier to project, stay consistent, stay healthy and harder to procure.


classic Rick move

You've learned from the best

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good dolphin wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
re read the thread from the start if you are going to bump it and comment on it

your criticism of rizzo/cashner trade is based on the premise premier pitching is superior to premier hitting.

don't run away from your well-known position that the cubs lost that trade b/c premier pitching>premier hitting.

what you blindly ignore is "premier" pitching is volatile as seen by ya boy sale. hitting much easier to project, stay consistent, stay healthy and harder to procure.


classic Rick move

You've learned from the best

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
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good dolphin wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
re read the thread from the start if you are going to bump it and comment on it

your criticism of rizzo/cashner trade is based on the premise premier pitching is superior to premier hitting.

don't run away from your well-known position that the cubs lost that trade b/c premier pitching>premier hitting.

what you blindly ignore is "premier" pitching is volatile as seen by ya boy sale. hitting much easier to project, stay consistent, stay healthy and harder to procure.


classic Rick move

You've learned from the best

yes i hate that's he's always right as well
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 Post subject: Re: Rizzo v. Cashner
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:21 pm 
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