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Just looking back and trying to fit this news with the events from the past.

Remember how the cops were at his house the very same day. People were thinking "Wow, no lawyer would allow that and it was probably too quick to get a warrant."

Well maybe Kane had no problem letting them in because he wasn't the one being accused.

If this was some big party it could very well be that Kane didn't really know a lot of the people at his house that night. Maybe he told everybody at the bar to come over.


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Lawyers of the accuser considering a press conference tomorrow.

http://sportsmockery.com/2015/09/possible-patrick-kane-press-conference-tomorrow/


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Alleged rape victim may hold a news conference tomorrow. Uh oh.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Alleged rape victim may hold a news conference tomorrow. Uh oh.


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Beardown wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Alleged rape victim may hold a news conference tomorrow. Uh oh.


I beat you!!!!
I gave a biting commentary on it though.

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My instinct by the way the report was phrased is there will be no press conference. The report was her lawyers are "Thinking about a presser to refute the rumors".

They won't do one. But by just leaking this they are basically telling people that the rumors are bullshit. They might not be but it's in their best interest to get that message out.


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Beardown wrote:
My instinct by the way the report was phrased is there will be no press conference. The report was her lawyers are "Thinking about a presser to refute the rumors".

They won't do one. But by just leaking this they are basically telling people that the rumors are bullshit. They might not be but it's in their best interest to get that message out.
I think you are slightly off.

It is a message to Kane's lawyers to stop leaking stuff or he'll have a press conference running live on Sportscenter about the case.

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But it has been verified that Kane bit the accuser on the shoulders, correct?

So was he holding her down during a gang rape?

Or did he fool around with her before she was raped by his friends/guests?

Or are the semen samples unrelated to the incident that took place at Kane's house?



Shades of Kobe. Tho the girl in Kobe's case, iirc, had multiple guys semen in her undergarments.

Or the extra-semen samples will match up to some hawkey-fan lab techs.... Image

I could see having her boyfriend's semen still sloshing about in her cooter, but multiple guys? I guess having multiple partners isn't a crime. She could have had sex with a few different guys in the weeks prior. Semen "dies" or becomes nonmotile in 5-7 days. But stays detectable in the female for weeks after. Depending on the hygiene of the girl. http://what-when-how.com/forensic-scien ... rsistence/


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Depending on the hygiene of the girl.

Gotta err on the side of Buffalo on this one.

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My instinct by the way the report was phrased is there will be no press conference. The report was her lawyers are "Thinking about a presser to refute the rumors".

They won't do one. But by just leaking this they are basically telling people that the rumors are bullshit. They might not be but it's in their best interest to get that message out.


If I was a prosecutor I think I would would go apeshit if her "team of lawyers" is holding stupid press conferences for the sole purpose of preserving some potential civil judgment before the criminal case even gets off the ground. Hard to imagine that Kaner's raper Turtle and Johnny Drama having very deep pockets.

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My instinct by the way the report was phrased is there will be no press conference. The report was her lawyers are "Thinking about a presser to refute the rumors".

They won't do one. But by just leaking this they are basically telling people that the rumors are bullshit. They might not be but it's in their best interest to get that message out.


If I was a prosecutor I think I would would go apeshit if her "team of lawyers" is holding stupid press conferences for the sole purpose of preserving some potential civil judgment before the criminal case even gets off the ground. Hard to imagine that Kaner's raper Turtle and Johnny Drama having very deep pockets.


Right. Plus I don't even think him holding a press conference is legal with the Grand Jury hearing pending.

That's why it's a leak just to let the public know that they're saying the rumors are bullshit.


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so from what i gather from the last couple'a pages is that they found KANERRRRRR's DNA under her fingernails and on her shoulder but not downstairs in/around the lovecanal/underwear, so now we're thinking that he might have been making out with the chick (or whatever kind of aggro-foreplay shoulderbiting is) but when it came down to it he didn't slam home a one-timer into the 5-hole and that's why stuff has gone down the way it has re: police/pressers/etc?

hrmmmm.... so that'd have me thinking that the chick left the bar with KANERRRR (and friends?) thinking she'd maybe get a chance to nail a NHL guy back @ his pad, but then after some (group?) fucking-around/making out at some point KANERRRRR withdrew and his friend/s went to town on her, resulting in either an outright rape or some sort of situation where (rough?) group sex wasn't ideal and then afterwards she went for rape charges cuz she either got raped (while KANERRRRR at most watched and at least was present somewhere else in the house) or just regretted what she did and figured she might be able to get a rape charge on KANERRRR for a possible payout?

#ListenAndBelieve, i know, but you still gotta consider that when pro athlete millionaires with debauchery-laden track records are involved this chick could have figured at some point she'd get a few bucks for her troubles of not getting with patrick kane (which again i'm guessing was her intention of going back to le chateau KANRRRRR with him at like 2am from the bar and all that)

what do y'all think this presser from the (alleged?) victim is gonna be about tomorrow?

also i found it odd that when i heard SCOREBOARD UPDATES mentioning the DNA found on the shoulder/fingernails but not the panties the updaters were quick to remind us that this doesn't necessarily mean patrick kane is innocent. it felt like a message of "yeah this information looks good for KANERRRR but HE'S NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET! STAY TUNED TRUE BELIEVERS CUZ WE'RE GONNA GET THIS SONOFABITCH!!!

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The really smart people Kane and the Hawks have. It all falls apart as the puck drops on the first preseason game. I wish I just had a resolution one way or the other.

A. Kane is charged and convicted and goes to prison. Victim gets healing and whatever she needs.

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B. Kane is absolved and cleared. Victim gets some resolution to what really happened and help etc.

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so from what i gather from the last couple'a pages is that they found KANERRRRRR's DNA under her fingernails and on her shoulder but not downstairs in/around the lovecanal/underwear, so now we're thinking that he might have been making out with the chick (or whatever kind of aggro-foreplay shoulderbiting is) but when it came down to it he didn't slam home a one-timer into the 5-hole and that's why stuff has gone down the way it has re: police/pressers/etc?

hrmmmm.... so that'd have me thinking that the chick left the bar with KANERRRR (and friends?) thinking she'd maybe get a chance to nail a NHL guy back @ his pad, but then after some (group?) fucking-around/making out at some point KANERRRRR withdrew and his friend/s went to town on her, resulting in either an outright rape or some sort of situation where (rough?) group sex wasn't ideal and then afterwards she went for rape charges cuz she either got raped (while KANERRRRR at most watched and at least was present somewhere else in the house) or just regretted what she did and figured she might be able to get a rape charge on KANERRRR for a possible payout?

#ListenAndBelieve, i know, but you still gotta consider that when pro athlete millionaires with debauchery-laden track records are involved this chick could have figured at some point she'd get a few bucks for her troubles of not getting with patrick kane (which again i'm guessing was her intention of going back to le chateau KANRRRRR with him at like 2am from the bar and all that)

what do y'all think this presser from the (alleged?) victim is gonna be about tomorrow?

also i found it odd that when i heard SCOREBOARD UPDATES mentioning the DNA found on the shoulder/fingernails but not the panties the updaters were quick to remind us that this doesn't necessarily mean patrick kane is innocent. it felt like a message of "yeah this information looks good for KANERRRR but HE'S NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET! STAY TUNED TRUE BELIEVERS CUZ WE'RE GONNA GET THIS SONOFABITCH!!!



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I can't figure out what happened. It does change things for me and I don't want to root for him. I don't get why so many seemingly want him to be guilty though. It's weird.


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so from what i gather from the last couple'a pages is that they found KANERRRRRR's DNA under her fingernails and on her shoulder but not downstairs in/around the lovecanal/underwear, so now we're thinking that he might have been making out with the chick (or whatever kind of aggro-foreplay shoulderbiting is) but when it came down to it he didn't slam home a one-timer into the 5-hole and that's why stuff has gone down the way it has re: police/pressers/etc?

hrmmmm.... so that'd have me thinking that the chick left the bar with KANERRRR (and friends?) thinking she'd maybe get a chance to nail a NHL guy back @ his pad, but then after some (group?) fucking-around/making out at some point KANERRRRR withdrew and his friend/s went to town on her, resulting in either an outright rape or some sort of situation where (rough?) group sex wasn't ideal and then afterwards she went for rape charges cuz she either got raped (while KANERRRRR at most watched and at least was present somewhere else in the house) or just regretted what she did and figured she might be able to get a rape charge on KANERRRR for a possible payout?

#ListenAndBelieve, i know, but you still gotta consider that when pro athlete millionaires with debauchery-laden track records are involved this chick could have figured at some point she'd get a few bucks for her troubles of not getting with patrick kane (which again i'm guessing was her intention of going back to le chateau KANRRRRR with him at like 2am from the bar and all that)

what do y'all think this presser from the (alleged?) victim is gonna be about tomorrow?

also i found it odd that when i heard SCOREBOARD UPDATES mentioning the DNA found on the shoulder/fingernails but not the panties the updaters were quick to remind us that this doesn't necessarily mean patrick kane is innocent. it felt like a message of "yeah this information looks good for KANERRRR but HE'S NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET! STAY TUNED TRUE BELIEVERS CUZ WE'RE GONNA GET THIS SONOFABITCH!!!



I would suspect that she will announce that Kaner's DNA was only present because he was consoling her after the gang rape. She sounds like the type of person who would be wearing a tank top.

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i also wanna apologize to anyone potentially offended by my recurring theme of speculating as to what could go down to set up a potential cashgrab, but when you've got someone with a MO like KANERRRRRRR and a chick leaving the bar with him in the middle of the night to go to his house, you have to wonder if a cashgrab scenario is possible because unlike most rape situations pro-athletes are loaded (both financially and often intoxciation-wise) and high-visibility public figures so if. say, after a night of getting cnut-teased and passed off into a session of (rough?) group sex with KANERRRRR's buddies you're doing the walk/drive/taxi of shame and in your drunken state you think you have a potentially million dollar idea (especially with KANERRRR's rep) so you go and get a rape kit and start the process up..... before you even get sober? maybe the thought is that if you fling enough mud his way he'll pay you SOMETHING to go away and get his name out of the media ASAP. i think it's a real possibility here.

even if it wasn't KANERRRR fucking her maybe in her early-AM drunken/ish state she figured if she flung enough mud at him she could still get even a 5-6 figure settlement? she's got nothing to lose here, especially when KANERRRR's MO has his own home-team media seemingly out to convict him because everyone wants to show off just how white and knightey they are.

but yeah, with the possible early-AM-drunken-assumption that flinging enough mud might even get you like 10 grand and it'd "get him back for passing me off to his friends" i could see that being a possibility to someone who was likely 1) drunk 2) passed off to the KANERRRRRettes and 3) used like an overblown sex toy for an hour or two. she's pissed, she's mad, she's not having ideal judgment and she has a lottery ticket of an idea in that state of mind? idk. #ImJustSayin................#AthansMotors

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I can't figure out what happened. It does change things for me and I don't want to root for him. I don't get why so many seemingly want him to be guilty though. It's weird.


Bernstein's narrative is that women never lie about this. That it either never goes to trial because of a settlement or it goes to trial and they can't prove it. Or they don't go to trial because the prosecutor doesn't think he can prove it or the victim doesn't want to go through a trial.

While I don't think most rape accusers are liars, I do think it happens (I know this thinking makes me pro rape in Bernstein's mind. Or a "Fan Boy". But he just says shit like this to make up for being a proven sexist. Wants to get women back on his side. That's his agenda). And it obviously would be more likely when the accused has a lot of money.

I initially thought he did it. Now not so sure. But then again, I don't know what to believe from all of these reports. I don't know what's accurate and what's being leaked from each camp to make their client look good. We'll never know.


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oh and then the talk of negotiations of a payoff = she wants big bucks to go away but kaner and his lawyers are like "hell no, he didnt even fuck you!" and her side is like "no, but you essentially pimped her out to be raped/manhanled/etc and look at how your own home-team media is so desperate to convict you? do you want this * adjust reading glasses and looks at paper * Dan Beer....stain fellow to spend 3-4 hours a day crucifying you on his radio show for the next couple months? pay up!" and kane's side is like "hell no"

that'd make sense to me cuz i think if there was potential that he could go down for this and she wasnt asking for the moon she'd have been paid a long time ago. this would have been handled. but since this is looking like she was passed off to his friends (which surely happens all the time with celebrities/musicians/rappers/athletes/etc) it's making kaner look bad to soapbox-preachers like bernstein and others who basically wanna convict him for being guilty of being patrick kane (and the rape helps out with that cause) and that's prolly the only thing bringing him to the table to negotiate with her here, unless he can get charged as an accessory for essentially passing her off to his buddies and thus enabling a potential rape.

she must think that besmirching his name is worth well into 7 figures and he's like "lol no" so now the press conference is the next step to get a few more bucks and etc.

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What kind of ovation did Kane get tonight when they took the ice? Anyone watching?

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Bernstein's narrative is that women never lie about this. That it either never goes to trial because of a settlement or it goes to trial and they can't prove it. Or they don't go to trial because the prosecutor doesn't think he can prove it or the victim doesn't want to go through a trial.

I initially thought he did it.


therein lies (nice double entendre!) the power of the media. when you first heard about this you prolly had a hearty helping of bernstein in your head (maybe even with rozner doing backing vocals) telling you how guilty he is and how pissed the blackhawks are and etc. the narrative/mindset isn't exclusively bernstein's but is part of a bigger picture that starts getting into "feminism" and "SJW" stuff and all that with the whole #ListenAndBelieve mantra out there to ultimately help promote the agenda of establishing a no-doubt "#RapeCulture" in america/world/etc.... which is just a bunch of horseshit cuz while rape surely does happen and it's a horrible thing, saying that the whole culture promotes it and thus brings about an EPIDEMIC OF RAPE?!?!?!? #comeonson just because there's scumbags out there doesnt mean that it's society-as-a-whole's fault for the scumbag existing.... nature vs nuture, you know? there's always going to be shitty people out there even if you live in a total fucking utopia; it's human nature.

in this case, i think that bernstein/rozner/pals assume that even if patrick kane didnt rape her that he did something wrong/bad/etc because he's patrick kane and he's a drunken low-life and that's what he does, so no matter what he's guilty of being patrick kane here and should be punished for that. and since dan formally bemoans payoffs/etc, he prolly figures that by doing his part and turning up the heat on KANERRRRR even if he isnt guilty it ups the chances of a payoff and hey kane's a millionaire who has a lot of $$$ for being a drunken louse, so if he helps her get a few bucks it's not going to hurt him any and it's only going to help her out way more than it'd help kaner out so it's a win-win situation (minus the initial situation, of course).... all the while he gets to continue preaching his sanctimonious morality crap against an easy target because dan bernstein wants you to know he stands for whats RIGHT in the world, so he still did some good work here.

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Yeah. And I love Rozner telling Kane to stop drinking. I hear Rozner constantly talk about boozing it up. So maybe he needs rehab. One day on hit and run he said he hadn't slept cuz of a long night of drinking.

And B&B are saying the same thing about Kane and drinking. But do you guys remember when they used to celebrate drinky's drinking? Hell, the old introduction of the B&B show, when they announced Matt Abbatacola, Terry would say the following..."DRINKY, DRINKY, DRINKY, DRINKY."

Not that Kane isn't a drunk, he is, just like 90% of the NHL, but a lot of media people that are telling Kane to stop drinking are drunks themselves.


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I can't figure out what happened. It does change things for me and I don't want to root for him. I don't get why so many seemingly want him to be guilty though. It's weird.



I do not get it either. At first it was just get the truth and to their credit Spiegs and Goff have been that. B&B went hard trying to claim they didn't. Again, I guess that is their thing so...

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Bernstein doesn't care what side women are on.



Actually I think Beardown has this as far as Bernsie. It is part and parcel of the new evolved Danny. If it is LBGT or rape accusers apparently Bernsie is all in and "WHY WOULD YOU QUESTION THEM". My question is if the truth needs to be know and it is done respectfully and sensitively why not question?

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What kind of ovation did Kane get tonight when they took the ice? Anyone watching?



I don't know but Terry claimed at some sort of dress rehearsal practice hundreds of kid high fived the bad guy on the way to the ice.

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Bernsie is so shameless if Kane gets off and one of his posse goes down he will allude to the voices in the room knowing that Kaner paid his boy to go to jail.

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I can't figure out what happened. It does change things for me and I don't want to root for him. I don't get why so many seemingly want him to be guilty though. It's weird.



I do not get it either. At first it was just get the truth and to their credit Spiegs and Goff have been that. B&B went hard trying to claim they didn't. Again, I guess that is their thing so...


i'd say that b&b's thing has been that (of course) kane is guilty and it's only a matter of whether he gets formally convicted of it. if there's a payoff then he's obviously guilty, if it goes to trial and he's found innocent then a guilty guy beat the case, and if the chick comes out at the presser and says "PATRICK KANE DIDNT RAPE ME AND IN FACT HE TRIED TO TALK ME OUT OF HAVING ANY SEX THAT NIGHT" then dan will likely say he's still guilty of being patrick kane and why's he hanging out with rapists? the blackhawks are still pissed! kaner is still a dumbass drunken scumbag!

it's just picking on an easy target with a rep and in the end it's all about dan making look good and moral and someone you can trust and believe in because he's OUT FOR JUSTICE like seagal in the 80s or something.

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Kaner paid his boy to go to jail.


ooh i didnt even think of that angle! why stop there? maybe he also paid his boy to fuck/rape her too cuz he could get into too much trouble if he got caught fucking/raping her?

video evidence could come out of somebody else fucking/raping her that night and he'd be like "WHO WAS THE CAMERAMAN?" because in the end you HAVE TO ADMIT THAT KANER IS GUILTY OF SOMETHING! HE'S PATRICK KANE! THIS IS HOW HE ROLLS!

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