They briefly mentioned that there's no guarantee that if Jake had stayed in Baltimore that he would've become the ace he is today.

My understanding is that this is actually wrong ... in fact, there is a guarantee he would not have become an ace in an Oriole uniform.

It's not just because Chris Bosio is demonstrably a great pitching coach, but also because Baltimore (like a number of other clubs I believe), as an organization, will simply not allow pitchers to throw like Jake does - which is to say, with a "crossfire" sort of motion. The actively steered him away from his natural throwing motion, which is the biggest factor why he might have had flashes of brilliance but never anything one could say was sustained.

Why they're not bringing that part up, I do not know.

They briefly mentioned that there's no guarantee that if Jake had stayed in Baltimore that he would've become the ace he is today.

My understanding is that this is actually wrong ... in fact, there is a guarantee he would not have become an ace in an Oriole uniform.

It's not just because Chris Bosio is demonstrably a great pitching coach, but also because Baltimore (like a number of other clubs I believe), as an organization, will simply not allow pitchers to throw like Jake does - which is to say, with a "crossfire" sort of motion. The actively steered him away from his natural throwing motion, which is the biggest factor why he might have had flashes of brilliance but never anything one could say was sustained.

Why they're not bringing that part up, I do not know.

Throwing across your body is not a natural throwing motion.

Throwing across your body is not a natural throwing motion.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Somewhere Jon Lieber sheds a single tear.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Okay ... the one he'd been using since it whatever age it mattered to him how he threw the ball ... it felt natural to him. My overall point is still clear even to the most dim. Also, without his "natural" motion, he is unable to throw his cutter.

Lieber was solid

Again that's not something you feel natural doing. It's something you have to work on. Honest question. Do you know what a "crossfire" delivery is?

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Arrietta get to 21 he wins the Cy Young regardless of Grienke getting 20. Book it.

Im pretty hammered right now.

Again that's not something you feel natural doing. It's something you have to work on. Honest question. Do you know what a "crossfire" delivery is?

Shit he might get 23 if they have a reason to play them all

Arrietta get to 21 he wins the Cy Young regardless of Grienke getting 20. Book it.

If their respective ERAs stay close ( within .2 or .3) as long as Arrietta ends up with more victories I think the no hitter swings it in his favor.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Well alrighty then. I'll take that as a very angry no.

I don't want to see him out there for 120 pitches rest of the season . Top him off at 90 and maybe skip his last start.

You're not very good at this.

Why don't you go ahead and explain to the class how you know what's natural for Jake Arietta?

I mean, don't let the fact that you don't know stand in your way.

You're not very good at this.

Why don't you go ahead and explain to the class how you know what's natural for Jake Arietta?

Im pretty hammered right now.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

I don't want to speak for Keyser, but I'm not sure that's what that term means. I'm guessing he's not speaking specifically about Arrieta, but any thrower in general.

If you want to get technical, any overhand throw is not "natural". But it's definitely not natural for anybody to pick up a baseball and throw it across their body overhand. Rather, the arm would go straight up and straight down. That movement would have less torque/strain on the arm.

That being said....many, many, many pitchers do it. Without harm.

You're not very good at this.

Why don't you go ahead and explain to the class how you know what's natural for Jake Arietta?

I mean, don't let the fact that you don't know stand in your way.

Since you don't apparently read very well ... as I said, I meant "natural" in the sense that "the [motion] he'd been using since whatever age it mattered to him how he threw the ball ... it felt natural to him."

And you are in fact speaking for him by attempting to interpret his obtuse posts.

Im pretty hammered right now.