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redskingreg

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:32 pm

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bigfan wrote:

The Lawyer said they went to "Great lengths" to verify it. The bag has a sku/barcode on it. I would think it would be really easy to verify that sticker..and the "great lengths" are just him being a dick.

I would assume Kane's attorney would be more than happy with "great lengths," after perusing the list above.

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Spaulding

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:33 pm

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That's what I'm saying Quad.

You can put a barcode on anything. Is there something special about this one? Like a license or money would have a seal or hologram thing?

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:34 pm

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pittmike wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Not if the whole bag show today is bullshit.

I'd be interested to hear more about this.

What do you mean?

It was just a thought I had before BF's post about a SKU. Everything is so nuts I thought it possible the lawyer could have a wrong or bag that wasn't the main bag to do something to change the narrative of two guys besides Kane's semen on the victim. I am really at a loss as to how this could happen and now the police claim they are unassailable. Someone is lying.

Seems an odd coincidence that just a couple days after a leaked ( but still unverified) story comes out with DNA exonerating Kane from shooting his load anywhere ( or not blasting semen for your benefit , Mike :lol:

) which really hurts her case if true, that her team comes up with this.

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Quadrophenia

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:34 pm

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bigfan wrote:

It's not just the bag IMO (although it is a huge thing), it's the totality of the leaks taking place. The attorney is basically shining a light on the incompetent PD.

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redskingreg

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

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Spaulding wrote:

That's what I'm saying Quad.

You can put a barcode on anything. Is there something special about this one? Like a license or money would have a seal or hologram thing?

Probably similar to license plate stickers. The bar code would be roooeeeened if it were removed.

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Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:36 pm

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Spaulding wrote:

That's what I'm saying Quad.

You can put a barcode on anything. Is there something special about this one? Like a license or money would have a seal or hologram thing?

Perhaps went to Kinko's and printed their own evidence labels?

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bigfan

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:36 pm

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Spaulding wrote:

That's what I'm saying Quad.

You can put a barcode on anything. Is there something special about this one? Like a license or money would have a seal or hologram thing?

The barcode is unique. If someone found the barcode, printed out a second one, then put it on a bag and sent it ....could have happened....but to hold this presser and state this as fact, you better have gone to great lengths as stated to make sure you are correct in this simple statement.

Does give a bit of a feeling of a Lawer ready to lose and he knows it, thus blaming something else.

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Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:37 pm

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Quadrophenia wrote:

bigfan wrote:

It's not just the bag IMO (although it is a huge thing), it's the totality of the leaks taking place. The attorney is basically shining a light on the incompetent PD.

...but what does this get them? They win the Public Opinion battle?

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Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:39 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

) which really hurts her case if true, that her team comes up with this.

What do you mean "comes up with this"?

You think the accusers lawyer is pulling a scam here?

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Quadrophenia

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:40 pm

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Spaulding wrote:

That's what I'm saying Quad.

You can put a barcode on anything. Is there something special about this one? Like a license or money would have a seal or hologram thing?

I haven't seen a picture that shows what type of markings they would have. If it was a barcode, it's not easy for someone to fake that. According to some people it had the victim's name blacked out. I'd guess it would have a Case # written down somewhere.

It would be a longshot for someone to fake an evidence bag. If someone is going to fake evidence, there are better ways to go about it than this.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:43 pm

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bigfan wrote:

Quadrophenia wrote:

bigfan wrote:

It's not just the bag IMO (although it is a huge thing), it's the totality of the leaks taking place. The attorney is basically shining a light on the incompetent PD.

...but what does this get them? They win the Public Opinion battle?

Maybe they actually believe the PD is corrupt or incompetent and truly needs to be investigated?

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Brick

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

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Spaulding wrote:

That's what I'm saying Quad.

You can put a barcode on anything. Is there something special about this one? Like a license or money would have a seal or hologram thing?

The numbers on the barcodes are likely in the millions or billions, so you'd need to make one hell of a good guess on it.

Now, maybe the lawyer knew the number and is risking their career for this, but that would be discovered pretty quick when they go to the evidence locker and the bag is sitting there.

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Quadrophenia

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:47 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

bigfan wrote:

Quadrophenia wrote:

bigfan wrote:

It's not just the bag IMO (although it is a huge thing), it's the totality of the leaks taking place. The attorney is basically shining a light on the incompetent PD.

...but what does this get them? They win the Public Opinion battle?

Maybe they truly believe the PD is corrupt or incompetent and truly needs to be investigated?

We should try reversing the situation here. How would Kane's attorneys handle it if all the leaks were coming out against him? Papers are leaking the results of the rape kit saying they found his DNA inside her. Then, the next day, the evidence bag shows up at Kane's mother's house. You can bet the attorney would be crying foul, talking about a PD that was out to get their client. How you can't trust the DNA evidence how it was compromised.

It goes both ways.

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BigW72

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:48 pm

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This whole thing has gotten ridiculous. While I tend to believe this was a Hail Mary from the prosecuting attorney, I still think Kane likely did something bad. He's an idiot. The girl is an idiot. The Hawks also look like idiots. I agree Kane should not be anywhere near the organization while the case is open.

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:50 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

) which really hurts her case if true, that her team comes up with this.

What do you mean "comes up with this"?

You think the accusers lawyer is pulling a scam here?

I don't know. The most damaging evidence ( if true) to her case just popped up. 2 days later, this calls that into question. Maybe she has a better in to the easily corrupted police department than Kane.

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Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:50 pm

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Señor wrote:

Really smart lawyers aren't even working today.

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Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:55 pm

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Curious Hair wrote:

Town of Hamburg speaks out...on facebook!

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In regard to the information conveyed today by Mr. Thomas Eoannou, the Hamburg Police Department will cooperate with any authorized investigation regarding the handling of evidence and the procedure of such. That said, The Hamburg Police Department has documentation that unequivocally demonstrates that it's handling of the evidence and the integrity of it's chain of custody of evidence in this case is unassailable. As is policy with active investigations, there will be no further comment regarding this situation.

oh, well, you have documents. fantastic. who needs rape kits or evidence bags when you have paperwork saying you have the rape kit and rape kit evidence bag.

and leading by defensively addressing the call for an investigation...not a good look.

"Unassailable" looks like a challenge.

Something simpler might've inspired more confidence in the 60 man suburb of a podunk town PD:

"We have the correct evidence bag with the proper evidence inside of it. Your move, counselor. "

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:56 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

So is that a yes that you do think the lawyer is pulling a scam here?

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Post subject: Re: KANER Under Investigation

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

So is that a yes that you do think the lawyer is pulling a scam here?

Or he's being duped. Up jumps the devil.

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Spaulding

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I assume the barcode was put on by the hospital or police. Hundreds of people can access that info and can give it to anybody.

bigfan wrote:

Does give a bit of a feeling of a Lawer ready to lose and he knows it, thus blaming something else.

Is this that important? If the lawyer did something and is found out that's worse than just losing an already tough case. Don't most high profile cases go this way?

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:58 pm

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Wasn't Kane's dna under her nails and on her shoulder? It possible his dick didn't work because he was trying to rape her or just too drunk. His dna being under her nails is a problem.

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:01 pm

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Police also buying into the fake bag theory.

[url]https://twitter.com/markpoloncarz/status/646769921473572864/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw[/url]

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i shouldn't be laughing but this whole thing is insanity.

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badrogue17 wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

So is that a yes that you do think the lawyer is pulling a scam here?

Looks like Rogue may have found the bullshit.

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It sounds like she was raped or they ran a train on her in Kane's home. He was clearly a part of it considering his dna was on her shoulder and under her nails. I don't know anyone who runs a train on someone without condoms involved.

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badrogue17 wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

So is that a yes that you do think the lawyer is pulling a scam here?

This makes the whole thing even better for the TV movie!

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Nas wrote:

But the real question is, does Jason Goff? And will they pay you if they break your condom?

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Nas wrote:

How many guys do you know that run trains on women?

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badrogue17

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Tad Queasy wrote:

Nas wrote:

How many guys do you know that run trains on women?

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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:13 pm

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Erie county dudes statement. Take it fwiw , Kanes goons may have got to him too.

Later Wednesday afternoon, Erie County commissioner of Central Police Services John Glascott denied that any evidence had been mishandled or that the chain of custody had been broken.
“All evidence related to this case that was given to Erie County Central Police Services by the Town Of Hamburg Police Department is accounted for and remains in its original packaging in the possession of Erie County Central Police Services,” Glascott said in a statement. “This includes the evidence in the rape kit and the packaging itself.
“This evidence has been analyzed and reports of that analysis sent to the appropriate agencies.”

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