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call me old fashioned, but isn't "the lifestyle to which she's become accustomed" something that hinges on being married to a guy? i mean, philosophically speaking, just because someone married rich and lived a glamorous life whilst married into wealth doesn't mean that they've always been rich from day 1 out of the womb, so why can't she "become accustomed" to living life at the level she was at b4 she was married?

you know, it's like if i found a giant bag of cash on the street with a few million in it, i reckon i'd "become accustomed" to the "lifestyle" of having $$$, but once the $$$ is gone i'd have to "become accustomed" to a life without a giant bag of cash... or would i be able to sue the bag of cash for monthly payments to continue the lifestyle i'm accustomed to?

it's funny to me that we lambast certain laws/mentalities as being antiquated (if they don't almost exclusively benefit females) yet other ones like this are prolly in "over my cold dead body" territory cuz i can't see any women wanting to ever give this advantage up. i bet there's some people out there who have schemed that they can marry rich between ages 20-30 and invest a few years in that, then they get out by/around age 30 and get a nice 6-7 figure annual salary locked and they can still catch the tail end of their prime knowing that no matter what they've always got 6-7 figures/year.

TLDR = it's always good to look like a super/model, eh? =D



The concept is that she may have been a brain surgeon a rocket scientist had she not instead devoted herself to changing the diapers of a hockey player's brat(s).

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
call me old fashioned, but isn't "the lifestyle to which she's become accustomed" something that hinges on being married to a guy? i mean, philosophically speaking, just because someone married rich and lived a glamorous life whilst married into wealth doesn't mean that they've always been rich from day 1 out of the womb, so why can't she "become accustomed" to living life at the level she was at b4 she was married?

you know, it's like if i found a giant bag of cash on the street with a few million in it, i reckon i'd "become accustomed" to the "lifestyle" of having $$$, but once the $$$ is gone i'd have to "become accustomed" to a life without a giant bag of cash... or would i be able to sue the bag of cash for monthly payments to continue the lifestyle i'm accustomed to?

it's funny to me that we lambast certain laws/mentalities as being antiquated (if they don't almost exclusively benefit females) yet other ones like this are prolly in "over my cold dead body" territory cuz i can't see any women wanting to ever give this advantage up. i bet there's some people out there who have schemed that they can marry rich between ages 20-30 and invest a few years in that, then they get out by/around age 30 and get a nice 6-7 figure annual salary locked and they can still catch the tail end of their prime knowing that no matter what they've always got 6-7 figures/year.

TLDR = it's always good to look like a super/model, eh? =D



The concept is that she may have been a brain surgeon a rocket scientist had she not instead devoted herself to changing the diapers of a hockey player's brat(s).



Yeah I am sure that is what her future was.

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I remember seeing Alonzo Spellman in court vs. his remarkably tiny Asian ex. I've never seen a guy that otherwise imposing look as frail. She looked absolutely deadly. She was hot, but looking @Spellman, I couldn't imagine trying to say hello to her.

It may have been a couple of months later were he was off wandering down streets & Singletary was "saving him".

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I don't know how it'd go if my husband left me. I wouldn't expect to live the life I live now which is okay but not extravagant. I'm almost 40, haven't worked in 10 years, don't think people want to hire a single mom, and am not improving with age. My husband continues with opportunities at work and gets better looking as he ages. It would really suck ass for me and is in my best financial interests to keep him happy.

I could probably have had an okay career, we chose for me to do other things. It'd suck if I was penalized for it years later.

I like Keith. This is a bummer for him.


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Does she have to demonstrate or list what she's spending the child support money on? How can you possibly spend that much money on a 3yr old?


Doesn't matter. It is based on 20% of your income. At least in Illinois that is the percentage for 1 child.

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Does she have to demonstrate or list what she's spending the child support money on? How can you possibly spend that much money on a 3yr old?


Doesn't matter. It is based on 20% of your income. At least in Illinois that is the percentage for 1 child.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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Does she have to demonstrate or list what she's spending the child support money on? How can you possibly spend that much money on a 3yr old?


Doesn't matter. It is based on 20% of your income. At least in Illinois that is the percentage for 1 child.


That's not exactly true either. 20% is the statutory guideline but a judge has plenty of leeway. A guy making $10:million a year isn't a standard case. It's doubtful a judge would award $2 million a year in child support. But he/she might.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:43 am 
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I remember seeing Alonzo Spellman in court vs. his remarkably tiny Asian ex. I've never seen a guy that otherwise imposing look as frail. She looked absolutely deadly. She was hot, but looking @Spellman, I couldn't imagine trying to say hello to her.

It may have been a couple of months later were he was off wandering down streets & Singletary was "saving him".


Tyson sitting in that interview with Robin Givens would be my example of a beaten man

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The concept is that she may have been a brain surgeon a rocket scientist had she not instead devoted herself to changing the diapers of a hockey player's brat(s).
It's not really that.

It is more about the significant others role in getting the person to where they were. She was dating him since they were 16. She put in a lot of work and made a lot of sacrifices that helped him get to where he is too. A good example seems to be Tiger Woods pre and post divorce.

Getting married is like a business arrangement. If that arrangement falls through both sides are given consideration for being part of it.

There is a reason all these athletes get married. There is a benefit to it for them also. If Keith had been stuck in the minors for his whole career and she became the next Ginger Zee I'm sure he'd be expecting to live the lifestyle too.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:46 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The concept is that she may have been a brain surgeon a rocket scientist had she not instead devoted herself to changing the diapers of a hockey player's brat(s).
It's not really that.

It is more about the significant others role in getting the person to where they were. She was dating him since they were 16. She put in a lot of work and made a lot of sacrifices that helped him get to where he is too. A good example seems to be Tiger Woods pre and post divorce.

Getting married is like a business arrangement. If that arrangement falls through both sides are given consideration for being part of it.

There is a reason all these athletes get married. There is a benefit to it for them also. If Keith had been stuck in the minors for his whole career and she became the next Ginger Zee I'm sure he'd be expecting to live the lifestyle too.



Yeah, that too. As Spaulding pointed out above, her whole life would likely be different if she hadn't gone down the road with her husband. A marriage is a partnership.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The concept is that she may have been a brain surgeon a rocket scientist had she not instead devoted herself to changing the diapers of a hockey player's brat(s).
It's not really that.

It is more about the significant others role in getting the person to where they were. She was dating him since they were 16. She put in a lot of work and made a lot of sacrifices that helped him get to where he is too. A good example seems to be Tiger Woods pre and post divorce.

Getting married is like a business arrangement. If that arrangement falls through both sides are given consideration for being part of it.

There is a reason all these athletes get married. There is a benefit to it for them also. If Keith had been stuck in the minors for his whole career and she became the next Ginger Zee I'm sure he'd be expecting to live the lifestyle too.



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Cashman wrote:
Do people not marry for love any more?
Straight people don't.

Of course it is also for love, but it is a business transaction, and should always be viewed as one prior to signing up for it.

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It's much tougher to define love than it is to define money.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Do people not marry for love any more?
Straight people don't.

Of course it is also for love, but it is a business transaction, and should always be viewed as one prior to signing up for it.



I do not know about you, but I did not marry my wife to get ahead via money or politics or because of eye candy on my arm.


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Cashman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The concept is that she may have been a brain surgeon a rocket scientist had she not instead devoted herself to changing the diapers of a hockey player's brat(s).
It's not really that.

It is more about the significant others role in getting the person to where they were. She was dating him since they were 16. She put in a lot of work and made a lot of sacrifices that helped him get to where he is too. A good example seems to be Tiger Woods pre and post divorce.

Getting married is like a business arrangement. If that arrangement falls through both sides are given consideration for being part of it.

There is a reason all these athletes get married. There is a benefit to it for them also. If Keith had been stuck in the minors for his whole career and she became the next Ginger Zee I'm sure he'd be expecting to live the lifestyle too.



Do people not marry for love any more?


It's not about the marriage part, it is about the unwritten agreements you make between each other within that relationship. The wife is induced to stay at home with the kids with the implication that she will be taken care of.

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I do not know about you, but I did not marry my wife to get ahead via money or politics or because of eye candy on my arm.
Neither did I, but it doesn't change the fact that it is also a business transaction.

We had similar goals and philosophies on money and we talked about them prior to being married. Given that I think the number one reason for divorce is money issues I think that was a smart discussion to have.

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I need to hear Julie DeCaro's take on this,

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I need to hear Julie DeCaro's take on this,



I am just reporting the facts....


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I do not know about you, but I did not marry my wife to get ahead via money or politics or because of eye candy on my arm.
Neither did I, but it doesn't change the fact that it is also a business transaction.

We had similar goals and philosophies on money and we talked about them prior to being married. Given that I think the number one reason for divorce is money issues I think that was a smart discussion to have.


infidelity has to be the number one reason

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I’m 2 years down, 3 to go of living this scenario. I cannot speak for Canada, but in Illinoi it’s quite simple and you all are missing a few points.
- Child support is based on NET income, not GROSS income. Taxes and mandatory expenses do not factor. Yes, DK makes $7.5M a year, but union fees, league fees, taxes, and healthcare come out first. There was an MLB pitcher that posted a pay stub and I was amazed at the various fees that are withdrawn. Still obviously making plenty of money, but it’s not as simple as saying “DK makes $7.5Million per year”.
- Maintenance (formerly known as alimony) is flat amount…not a percentage. Correct on the other poster that Maintenance is TAXABLE income for the recipient
- Maintenance is based on based on adding up reasonable and comparable cost of living expenses on both sides. The income is then moved over from one side to the other to make the balance even.
- Grounds / Reasons for divorce mean ZERO. DK could have banged 20 women in front of his wife and the financial settlement will not change

The moral of the story is if your take home pay matters to you, ensure your spouse makes comparable or more money. My ex was a stay at home Mom and I am paying very dearly for it. My own fault, but that’s reality.

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I'm pretty sure staying at home is good for my kids but I'm not all that sure it's good for me or my marriage.


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Spaulding,
In very few words, you stated it very well. i won't speak for you....sadly I've just seen that a majority of the time the bad for the woman and bad for the marriage aspects of stay at home Mom diminish the value of good for the kids.

I'm not trying to turn this into "anti-stay at home Mom". Just pointing out that it has a financial reality. Buyer beware. I pay my ex without complaint. It's a lot, but that's the law....and much of it ISN't for the kids.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I do not know about you, but I did not marry my wife to get ahead via money or politics or because of eye candy on my arm.
Neither did I, but it doesn't change the fact that it is also a business transaction.

We had similar goals and philosophies on money and we talked about them prior to being married. Given that I think the number one reason for divorce is money issues I think that was a smart discussion to have.


infidelity has to be the number one reason
I could see that but often infidelity is a sign of other issues too.

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The moral of the story is - don't ever get married, I won't even sign a cell phone contract..let alone a lifetime contract with a woman.

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