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And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs.

It sounds to me as if the truth came out today. The district attorney sounded very thorough. And perpetuating a lie while releasing the name of a rape accuser is something more than a disservice.

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That Julie DiCaro had to be held out of work today because of threats made against her for doing her job is absolutely revolting.

Arguing with idiots on twitter at 10:30 at night is part of her job? Does she invoice CBS on that? That people threatened her is disgusting, but it was not within the context of her job.

Why are you job shaming her?

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Although I think Julie is biased and blood hungry for a Kane conviction, I feel bad that she got a death threat. That's horrible.

While I'm sure most of these twitter threats are just fake tough guys, I do understand why she can't go to the Score's building today. And she shouldn't be made fun of for that.


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"The Hawks themselves, particularly John McDonough, will also be defined by this. A career’s worth of public relations genius is nearly totally undone at this point, as the team is inexorably linked with the player and this nightmare by their own doing."

Really tired of hearing shit like this. No he won't and neither will the Hawks. No one will care about this a couple years from now if the Hawks keep winning (which they will).

This paragraph is really…a thing.


And sadly, the victim’s camp is now left with a mark as well. The truth to the origins and motivation behind the mystery evidence bag will likely never come out, but the last 16 hours have all but sealed the fate of this case. Their representation did them a profound disservice by not only going public with the information before it was fully vetted, but also by inadvertently serving up her actual name to the CHUDs. But it’s yet another shining example of the victim being on trial in sexual assault cases. Despite doing everything correctly on paper in going to the hospital and police immediately and not being a part of any kind of settlement talks, the process is still undermined by a mistake on her part, one which she may not have even been party to. And it’s a sickening and saddening commentary on this rape culture that a man with a history of grotesque behavior towards women is given far more benefit of the doubt than the accuser, even if this is a world class fuck up by her mother and her attorney. It once again goes back to intent versus outcome here. Regardless of whatever technicality or misstep that allows Patrick Kane to remain unpunished and enabled, the fact remains this woman felt wronged enough to go through the horrific re-victimization process, which speaks louder to the fact that something terrible happened that night in August than anything else.


I haven't seen that much bullshit in one paragraph in a long time. Breathtaking.
It doesn't matter what her camp did, Kane is still fucking guilty dammit.


The fact that she is still even using the phrase "evidence bag" is grotesquely delusional. The DA specifically said that it was a hospital garment bag. And he specifically said that he had had no communication with the accuser because she had immediately retained a civil plaintiff's attorney who prohibited it. I hope Kane fucking sues everybody.

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Can't argue with the impartiality of a guy who calls Kane "Garbage Dick."

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Lol... So Julie gets that death threat from a twitter account (97% likely made that night) with only one tweet (and if you look at the sentence structure whoever wrote that probably stumbled over what they already wrote to add in the "AND IT KILLS YOU!!!" part to make it a proper DEATH THREAT).... during a time period when she was quite possibly egging on her haters by retweeting the most vitriolic stuff she got...... And now she can't go to work cuz of safety concerns?

Yeap. She's going to become a story as this Kane story wraps up and the focus shifts to "OUR SOCIETY HAS A MISOGYNY PROBLEM" --- hell did anyone see Goff's instagram post of the text screen? There's one text simply like "FUCK YOU GOFF YOU [N-WORD] [K-WORD FOR JEWISH PPL].... you know it's coming. Get ready to feel ashamed to be a part of society.

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While it may well be that Kane did not rape anyone, maybe this whole mess will cause him to curtail his drinking somewhat and he will avoid putting himself in a position of vulnerability in the future. An athletic career is short enough, to shorten it further by burning the candle at both ends and drinking as often and as much as it's reported he does, can do nothing but shorten a career and keep him from reaching even greater accomplishments.


Yup. This whole situation could be the best thing that has happened to Kane. Hopefully he sees it that way and grows the hell up.

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I'm currently in my first twitter fight ever, with Tim Graham of the Buffalo News. Its pretty exciting although I think he just blocked me, but I'm not sure cause I don't really know how twitter works.

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Julie needs to get laid.


Julie and Spiegel would make a lovely couple.

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Julie and Spiegel would make a lovely couple.

They should make a sex tape.


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Lol... So Julie gets that death threat from a twitter account (97% likely made that night) with only one tweet (and if you look at the sentence structure whoever wrote that probably stumbled over what they already wrote to add in the "AND IT KILLS YOU!!!" part to make it a proper DEATH THREAT)....


So that tweet was the "death threat"? (The one hoping that she was hit/killed by a puck shot by a Blackhawk?) Lame.

I have a feeling CBS is going to regret hiring her...with her "legal background", victimhood and/or SJW status, she is likely going to be an HR nightmare at some point.

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Lol... So Julie gets that death threat from a twitter account (97% likely made that night) with only one tweet (and if you look at the sentence structure whoever wrote that probably stumbled over what they already wrote to add in the "AND IT KILLS YOU!!!" part to make it a proper DEATH THREAT)....


So that tweet was the "death threat"? (The one hoping that she was hit/killed by a puck shot by a Blackhawk?) Lame.


Not that one. She got one that said "I know the door you enter at the SCORE" or something like that.

Certainly a threat. But most of these threats are bullshit.


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Lol... So Julie gets that death threat from a twitter account (97% likely made that night) with only one tweet (and if you look at the sentence structure whoever wrote that probably stumbled over what they already wrote to add in the "AND IT KILLS YOU!!!" part to make it a proper DEATH THREAT)....


So that tweet was the "death threat"? (The one hoping that she was hit/killed by a puck shot by a Blackhawk?) Lame.


Not that one. She got one that said "I know the door you enter at the SCORE" or something like that.

Certainly a threat. But most of these threats are bullshit.


Ah, thanks...that does make a difference.

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Catching up on the past few pages, i'm trying to piece together things. Was there any clairifcation on what happened w/ the Mom and the bag? Any theories how she got the bag? What is the hoax part?

An answer I'd like to know, but probably wont ever find out; How long does traces of sperm last inside a victim?

Are the bite mark on the victim/accuser for real?


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Catching up on the past few pages, i'm trying to piece together things. Was there any clairifcation on what happened w/ the Mom and the bag? Any theories how she got the bag? What is the hoax part?

An answer I'd like to know, but probably wont ever find out; How long does traces of sperm last inside a victim?

Are the bite mark on the victim/accuser for real?


The bag had nothing to do with the rape kit-- which is in a box, and never a bag, according to the DA. The bag was apparently given to the accuser or her mother, to put clothes in. The mother then claimed the bag was her daughter's tampered-with rape kit, dropped in front of her door. Her stupid attorney believed her and went public with it.

The first question given to the DA was whether he planned on bringing charges against the mother, and he said he was reviewing the laws but didn't think it was illegal to make "fraudulent claims to a private party." :?

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Are the bite mark on the victim/accuser for real?


Last night Paul Cambria claimed that there were no bite marks and that the bite marks were a false rumor from early in the case.

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Are the bite mark on the victim/accuser for real?


Last night Paul Cambria claimed that there were no bite marks and that the bite marks were a false rumor from early in the case.

So if you have no DNA from Kane , no bite how in the hell are they going to try and make a rape case?

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Honest question; what does a person have to do to be truly cleared of rape accusations? No DNA below the waist, blatant lies and attempts at deception by the accuser's lawyer and family, witnesses for the accuser changing their story; all of these thing seem to indicate to the Score that Kane is more guilty, so how can one actually clear one's name in a case like this?

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Councilman Les Whinen wrote:
Honest question; what does a person have to do to be truly cleared of rape accusations? No DNA below the waist, blatant lies and attempts at deception by the accuser's lawyer and family, witnesses for the accuser changing their story; all of these thing seem to indicate to the Score that Kane is more guilty, so how can one actually clear one's name in a case like this?


Short of the accuser announcing that she made the whole thing up...nothing.

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It would be fucking hilarious if Julie sent that tweet out to herself..as a misdirection ..to change the story of her, Bernstein And a number of posters here..who played Judge, jury n executioner ..The apple don't fall far from the tree. The whole family is money hungry n crazy.

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Are the bite mark on the victim/accuser for real?


Last night Paul Cambria claimed that there were no bite marks and that the bite marks were a false rumor from early in the case.

So if you have no DNA from Kane , no bite how in the hell are they going to try and make a rape case?


I suppose the same way they used to do them prior to DNA (though I believe they still have his DNA under her fingernails...not sure if they looked at Kane for scratches). Rapists apparently like to use condoms to avoid disease and prevent leaving evidence, so I would think lack of DNA is not a rare obstacle (though it probably makes it tougher to prosecute).

As I said in another thread, the implication here is that Kane is denying any sexual contact occurred. And if that is the truth, great. But if something arises that disproves that, he would never be able to go the Kobe route and claim she consented.

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Lol... So Julie gets that death threat from a twitter account (97% likely made that night) with only one tweet (and if you look at the sentence structure whoever wrote that probably stumbled over what they already wrote to add in the "AND IT KILLS YOU!!!" part to make it a proper DEATH THREAT)....


So that tweet was the "death threat"? (The one hoping that she was hit/killed by a puck shot by a Blackhawk?) Lame.


Not that one. She got one that said "I know the door you enter at the SCORE" or something like that.


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It would be fucking hilarious if Julie sent that tweet out to herself..as a misdirection ..to change the story of her, Bernstein And a number of posters here..who played Judge, jury n executioner ..The apple don't fall far from the tree. The whole family is money hungry n crazy.

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It would be even better if she would have registered the account as @Rerno Williams

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Honest question; what does a person have to do to be truly cleared of rape accusations? No DNA below the waist, blatant lies and attempts at deception by the accuser's lawyer and family, witnesses for the accuser changing their story; all of these thing seem to indicate to the Score that Kane is more guilty, so how can one actually clear one's name in a case like this?


Short of the accuser announcing that she made the whole thing up...nothing.



Then Kane must have paid off the family.

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Councilman Les Whinen wrote:
Honest question; what does a person have to do to be truly cleared of rape accusations? No DNA below the waist, blatant lies and attempts at deception by the accuser's lawyer and family, witnesses for the accuser changing their story; all of these thing seem to indicate to the Score that Kane is more guilty, so how can one actually clear one's name in a case like this?


Short of the accuser announcing that she made the whole thing up...nothing.



Then Kane must have paid off the family.

I was just thinking the same thing...

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So.....

No Kane DNA below the waist, however, there is male DNA of at least one other male. Who were the other males there, if any, or did she get some earlier before the bar? This also implies that there was Kane DNA of some sort above her waist. Biting? probably yes.

So is this gang bang gone bad? Gold digger whore from the get go? Kaner wearing a rubber?

She went home and changed her shirt before she went to the hospital? This makes no sense. If you were going to say you were raped, who cares if your shirt was ripped (if it was)

The evidence bag that was trotted around yesterday was from her old shirt? Did they go to her house and get it? How did Mom get the bag?

This story gets crazier and crazier. I don't see where this exonerates Kane totally.

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