2003- Aram & Lee

2015- Bryant & Rizzo


Are you Cub fans better off today than you were 12 years ago?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Hell yes. Aram and Lee were DEAD ASS BASEBALL. Damn you for even reminding me of Lee.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

While the overall numbers are probably great, both of those guys had some terrible starts...I am talking .171 average starts for 2 months. Then heated up when it meant nothing.

They had some great years here, would never deny it, but they had some ral crap that didnt show in the stats because the final numbers looked good...huge pet peave of mine when someone likes the final numbers and they disregard the first 2 months and make hay when it means nothing.

But to answer your question, are better off with 2 players that will probably be better in the long run and cost controlled for the next 6 years....well, I will let you answer it, because it really isnt a worthy discussion.

But a great trade by Hendry for He Cant Hit and that overhyped 2nd Baseman, whatever his name was....probably the highlight of the Hendry era.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Right. Rizzo and Bryant should hope to have the careers those two did.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Similar Batters through 24

Compare Stats to Similars
1.John Mayberry (954)
2. Derrek Lee (942)

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

What is happening? Lee wasnt on the fucking team in 2003 and Aram didn't arrive until trade mid season. You are so fucking dumb I do t have the words. Lee was on the team that beat them in 2003 you fucking clown.

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Take it easy on jimmy. He is remembering the 2004 "Team With No Weaknesses".

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Hahahaha

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So I'm a season or two off,sue me. You angry dumbfuck.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I'm angry that you represent cub fans. You are ignorant. You are as bad as the pink hats and shirtless bros singing Go Cubs Go.

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Jimmy, will you be happy if they win a world series, or will the 3 years of losing forever taint such an accomplishment?

And did the previous 35 years of losing and sucking all the money out by the Tribune company with no intentions of a world series effect you in the same way?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Being old and having seen good/bad Cub teams in the past doesn't make me any better than you younger Cub fans. What continues to anger me is what the hell you guys thought was going on these past 3 years when the rest of the National League beat the hell out of your favorite team. That logic is something I can't comprehend.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I've seen them lose most of my life. At least this had a some sort of goal at the end.

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What? Lee was very good for the Cubs. So was Aramis.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Certainly not in 2003. I mean, aram was sure, but wasn't Simon and karros playing 1st in 03? I seem to remember Karros with some video camera scam that was going on...

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

I'm not going to pick on jimmy for that. Senility is no joke. He meant 2004-2010... that was a solid tandem for those years.

That being said, I'm extremely comfortable with Rizzo and Bryant.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

So am I!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Are you?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Good. I'm glad.

But now compare the strength of the entire Chicago Cubs organization in 2015 versus 2004.

I'm much more comfortable with 2015. The Cubs are a 94-95 win team this season, I think. And they still have the assets to sign yet another top tier free agent pitcher, and/or trade to solidify the outfield / bullpen. And after that...they still have prospects that can fill in and help as needed / traded in future seasons for even more impact players. And I trust the amateur scouting to continue keeping the organization stocked.

I trusted Hendry only to sign 30 year old free agents and have half of them work out.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I see Bryant as a future MVP, perhaps more than 1. I see him having multiple years of 40 or more homers beginning as soon as next season, with 120 or more RBI in multiple seasons.Plus, Rizzo is a 30/ 100 guy himself and a great defensive player.Plus, Rizzo and Bryant are vastly superior base runners. Both can steal bases now and then and Bryant has beat out more infield singles this season than Ramirez and Lee did in their careers. Lee had 1 amazing season and a couple more that were good, but I never saw a guy hit more double play ground balls to the SS position. he killed more rallies than anyone.....EVER. Ramirez was very good. Underrated by many. But no doubt, I take Rizzo and Bryant

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Go Cubs!!!!

I will never forget how Lee went out. He pissed me off so much. I know he was a good player but he was the poster boy for the dead ass attitude that plagued them. I loved when Z wanted to kick his ass in the dugout for it.

Aramis was good but very streaky.

I will always take a young combo of players who are striving to win a championship...and get paid over a combination of already paid vets that are just cashing checks and going through the motions(LEE).

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

Steve putting Bryant in the Willie mays category. What a hoot.

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i mean if you're gonna start a whole thread to make a comparison and you can't get the year right...

you may be jimmypasta.

Yeah,big deal! Go review another movie, Siskel.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."