Does anyone even care about a movie whose star actors are all 70 years old? Shouldn't the title be "Grumpy Old Star Wars"?

I think I'll pass after Anthony Daniels (C3PO) said the script sucks. And they made the most bad-ass stormtrooper be a woman? C'mon.

Harrison Ford hasn't made a good movie since the Fugitive in '93. Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill haven't been in anything since Return of the Jedi, other than Hamill voicing the Joker in the Batman cartoons.

My feeling is Hollywood is done creating decent films anymore. All the comic book movies are a joke. And all the good directors like Spielberg, Scott and Coppola are over the hill and irrelevant now, though I did like Scott's "Exodus: Gods and Kings" despite the miscasting of Sigourney Weaver and John Turturro. I kept waiting for Turturro to say, "Nobody fucks with the Jesus!".

I really hope it gets better from here.

Well, since you posted on my thread, I doubt it.

In my opinion, only the first movie was worth seeing. Part IV, I guess

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"Empire" was pretty good. Return of the Jedi, not so much. I only saw the first prequel. That was enough to ruin it for me. It wasn't about making good movies at that point, just money grubbing by Lucas.

But most of the movies that came out around that time of the first Star Wars ('77) were good. The best of all was "Jaws" in '75. There has never been a finer acting performance than Robert Shaw's as Quint in that movie.

It will generate cash, so hard to say "bomb" but it will suck..yes. I liked clear n present danger with Ford..it was after the fugitive ..but he's been in awful movies since.

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It'll be fine because JJ Abrams won't make a Star Wars movie. Star Wars fans don't actually like Star Wars movies.

I fail to see how these movies could be worse than the prequels.

How can you not do better than 7 hours of soap-opera camera angles filled with unnatural dialogue, god-awful story, and a bunch of assholes in front of a green screen?

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One of my favorite movies of all time is Star Trek II, "The Wrath of Khan", but I am not a fan of the reboots of the Star Trek films from JJ Abrams. How could you ever replace Shattner, Nimoy, Kelly and the rest of the original cast? You can't. Nor can you replace Ricardo Montalban's Khan, who is one of the greatest villains in film of all time.

Remember this scene. It's just fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaVIIoRKBlk

The same reason why French Connection is a much better movie than the Counselor. Blade runner much better than these awful Sci Fi modern garbage.

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You weren't the target audience for the Star Trek reboots. Young people were who gave a shit about the old stuff. Similarly here with Star Wars. Lucas tapped out and now to new things. They are using old characters as a connector to keep fans like me as well as the younglings. It is a new galaxy far far away. If you love Star Wars go if not then don't.

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What is there really to love about it? It was a cultural phenomenon at the time, but that was 30 plus years ago. You can't duplicate the success of the first two films, because there aren't those kind of actors any more. Ford, Hamill and Fisher all made their names in Star Wars, but were unknown at the time. The two great actors in Star Wars were Alec Guiness and Peter Cushing. Without those two the first film would not have been anywhere close as good.

There are hardly any young actors to get excited about, which is why Hollywood is dying. Leonardo is very talented, but who after him? Maybe Benjamin Walker. That's why I haven't gone to the theater since "300" came out seven years ago, because that was the last good film.

I take that back. "Inglorious Basterds" (2009) was excellent. Tarantino won't ever be able to top that.

As I said then don't go. I and many millions more will.

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Wait,you haven't seen Expendables 3?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Tim Tebow and Dan Fouts are both going to see the new Star Wars.

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damn straight!

i remember when randy newman did the soundtrack to the prequels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNG_SrSa4o

If it completely sucks, at least we will get a good Plinkett review out of it

Agreed...the pacing is just perfect. The look on Khan's face when his shields are going down is priceless. "Where's the override???"

I did like Into Darkness a lot...the scene where Spock gives Khan the nerve pinch on the neck was great...little touches like that give me hope that Abrams does a good job with SW.

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I need to watch the Plinkett reviews of the prequels again just to hate George Lucas a tiny bit more.

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those red letter media reviews are the only thing i point to anymore whenever someone starts defending the prequels. i don't even say anything anymore, i just say "red letter media took care of it". it was 100% spot on.

The last Star Trek movie ended horribly when they turned Spock into some kind of superhero.

I'm not a big fan of Star Wars but I will go see it. Hopefully it's decent.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I predict that the new movies are pretty good, and the ones that get into the individual stories of others in the universe are great since they don't have to worry as much about logical consistency with other known actions in the universe.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I'd tend to fall in this line of thinking. Disney has a lot riding on these with the purchase of the franchise and the new Star Wars theme parks they will be building.
You will find the true Star Wars enthusiast that will likely scoff at them but I have a lot of hope that they will be good and move the story along. I'd also tend to
agree that a separate series showing a young Han Solo and how he meets Chewie and some of their adventures would be awesome.

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Took my mother to the doctor last week and was waiting around out front in the lobby/atrium after her appointment for the ADA Pace bus. I heard an actual conversation about this movie between a guy and a woman. Can't say for sure if they were a couple but seemed like they were. She looked and sounded like a high-functioning Asperger's type and he came across very odd in his behavior and appeared docile to her. Both seemed excited for the movie but the guy complained that the villain, or one of the villains, at any rate a Sith, is being played by the lead male actor from Lena Dunham's show, which the guy thought was outrageous because he felt the actor was awful. Girl disagreed and thought the actor was attractive at which point the guy shut up and changed the subject to what Han Solo's role would be the in movie.

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Back off, Warchild. Seriously.

Adam Driver is in fact playing Kylo Ren one of the supposed bad guys. He isn't a bad actor per se. His character is not very likeable in the
Girls show but he has done plenty of other things.

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woah woah woah, are you telling me that there's people out there who didn't think this was going to completely suck balls?

That's almost as stupid as me watching the new Heroes series expecting it not to suck.

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Could not disagree more. Love the Star Trek reboot. Glad they replaced the original cast with actual actors who own current resumes. Seems like Star Wars failed to follow that lead and look at the results.

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Star Wars fans will love the new movies because if they don't, they won't be able to blame Lucas for it, which I don't think they can accept.