I wouldn't say exact opposite: more that Obama has lots of advisers and they all think they're too smart for everyone else. Chris Matthews touched on this a few years ago.

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Agreed. But Chas is saying Obama is the kingpin and Trump is the one with a think tank. That is not the case

I'd like to see the brainstorm that culminated in "so we're all in agreement, say she's just on the rag."

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I am not sure why Chas put it here but he is correct. Gutierrez started legislation for illegals to get into obamacare pools this week.

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Reading through it on his site. I'm torn on this one.

Is having them pay into the pool a worse idea than giving them free health care at the ER, which is what happens now? The world view is narrow, with this one.

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I dont see how they are going to pay in unless they are issued SS numbers which means Amnesty.

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The only Amnesty that has ever been granted was by you savior Ronald Reagan. For fuck sake. If you want another wide reaching "Dems are evil" thread go start one. This is the Trump area.

I'm not supporting or trashing Gutierrez' plan. I'm just trying to bring up another part of the equation that is being ignored, because illegals.

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Trump is dangerous. Dude is, in my opinion, unhinged. Sure he just says what's on his mind. That doesn't make him presidential. You want this doofus going up against a dude like Putin?

No thanks.

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"He speaks his mind" is my favorite thing from the Trump supporters.

Every bar in America is filled with wackos who speak their mind. Everybody has a goof in their family that speaks their mind at holiday dinner. I don't want them to be president, either.

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Yuup. That's pretty much it. You said it better than I did. But yeah, he's a looney.

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I don't think he really is this looney. He is pandering to idiots, by playing a character who is 50% reality show contestant, and 50% pro wrestler.

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Hes a schmuck who failed his business several times and got bailed out by favorable laws. He's not half the businessman he's sold as. He's just a loudmouth.

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I'm with you, I can't stand him. I just don't think he is as batshit crazy as some of the others in the clown car.

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Trump has peaked. He was hovering around 25% for about a month, month and a half. I think that's his ceiling. There will be a clear distinction provided once the field is narrowed.

The crowd who simply thinks "throwing the bums out" is the answer hasn't realized that Trump may be quite possibly thee biggest bum of them all.

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Who on this board supports rump?

Throw the bums out indeed!

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I do.

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I would rock that like an asinine hurricane.

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Short of worked physical altercations, there's really little difference between the partisan Presidential conventions and Monday Night Raw.

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Raw is more believable.

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