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No,I remember Jiggs telling Mike you can go broke if you keep paying out handymen.

My take on it is how many times do you have a big home project? I don't need to know how to put in a floor or fix a roof. Not my profession. I spent my life working years of OT as a computer guy to make enough money to pay the occasional handyman.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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"You call yourself a man?"

That's what I feel every handyman we ever hired is thinking about me when I bring them in to do something.
:lol: I've thought the same thing.


My first house had a Sears wall heater in an add on room. It didn't work and I didn't know jack squat about it. So I called Sears. A guy came out and fixed it. I think it was a $50 part, but it cost almost $100 just to get him there before he did anything. Total bill was about $300. The guy said "you think this is too much?" I said yes it is. He said (direct quote) "That's what you get when you have someone come do your work for you."

I haven't bought a thing from Sears since.

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 Post subject: Re: Oven Issue
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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"You call yourself a man?"

That's what I feel every handyman we ever hired is thinking about me when I bring them in to do something.
:lol: I've thought the same thing.

They definitely are thinking that


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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
"You call yourself a man?"

That's what I feel every handyman we ever hired is thinking about me when I bring them in to do something.
:lol: I've thought the same thing.


My first house had a Sears wall heater in an add on room. It didn't work and I didn't know jack squat about it. So I called Sears. A guy came out and fixed it. I think it was a $50 part, but it cost almost $100 just to get him there before he did anything. Total bill was about $300. The guy said "you think this is too much?" I said yes it is. He said (direct quote) "That's what you get when you have someone come do your work for you."

I haven't bought a thing from Sears since.


Right there I would have thrown him out of my house or at least explained to him if it wasn't for guys like me,guys like you would be out of work.

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 Post subject: Re: Oven Issue
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:05 am 
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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
"You call yourself a man?"My first house had a Sears wall heater in an add on room. It didn't work and I didn't know jack squat about it. So I called Sears. A guy came out and fixed it. I think it was a $50 part, but it cost almost $100 just to get him there before he did anything. Total bill was about $300. The guy said "you think this is too much?" I said yes it is. He said (direct quote) "That's what you get when you have someone come do your work for you."

I haven't bought a thing from Sears since.


You and millions of others have taken this route.

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But seriously, it's the igniter. Either the glow ain't glowing enough or not at all or it's weakness isn't allowing the gas valve to open enough

The ignitor isn't allowing the gas valve to open enough? What?

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 Post subject: Re: Oven Issue
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:36 am 
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Shut your mouth, I'm trying to kill Pittmike.


Thanks.


But seriously, it's the igniter..... or it's weakness isn't allowing the gas valve to open enough.


god you are fucking stupid. how you made it past 18 is astounding

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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
"You call yourself a man?"

That's what I feel every handyman we ever hired is thinking about me when I bring them in to do something.
:lol: I've thought the same thing.


My first house had a Sears wall heater in an add on room. It didn't work and I didn't know jack squat about it. So I called Sears. A guy came out and fixed it. I think it was a $50 part, but it cost almost $100 just to get him there before he did anything. Total bill was about $300. The guy said "you think this is too much?" I said yes it is. He said (direct quote) "That's what you get when you have someone come do your work for you."

I haven't bought a thing from Sears since.

You have a shitty attitude. Yeah the part is $50. You think he is free labor? That his truck and gas and insurance doesn't cost anything? How about the fact that he had the knowledge to know which part to fix and how to fix it?

I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?

Had a customer this summer call for a no cooling call. Lawyer. Big place in a gated community. They've got 3 ac units in this place. Condenser fan motor is bad on the west main floor unit. I quote 445 for the motor. 68 for the Dispatch. OK this guy goes bananas. The motor is only 200 at grainger he screams at me. Mind you it's about 6pm on a Friday. I want to go fucking home man. He says fuck you I'll go buy the motor and put it in myself. Fine.

Monday I have to go back. He bought the motor at grainger but a couple things. He didn't put in the right capacitor. The new one needed 7.5 cap and he hooked up the old 5 cap which was testing around 4 as it was bad anyway. The cap is included automatically when I replace a motor. Also, he managed to wire it wrong to the contactor, so he killed the start winding on a brand new motor. While he was at it he managed to ruin the fan blades because he pried the fan blade hub off the rusty shaft all wrong.

So now... a second Dispatch charge. The original 445 for the motor. Plus another 200 for the fan blades. Not to mention the 200 or so for the grainger motor he killed. They wouldn't take it back. Not to mention the 4 or 5 hours he spent fucking around with it .

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 Post subject: Re: Oven Issue
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:56 am 
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pittmike wrote:
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You're getting it fixed for $50 if you buy the $50 part and put it in yourself.
Not going to happen with me especially when we are dealing with gas appliances.

If your rule on appliances are different, and you are Mr. Fix It for them then I understand. It just doesn't work for me. I know what I'm not good at. It took me like 6 hours to install a dishwasher and those are easy.


"You call yourself a man?"

That's what I feel every handyman we ever hired is thinking about me when I bring them in to do something.

Better though to get it done right and spend a few bucks.
I think it was either North or Mac who once said about "home projects": I don't feel like sanding a door for 6 hours on the weekend

It might have been North because Jiggs took the opposite angle.



I took Jiggs more for being too lazy or too busy to do that stuff.


You just assume the balck guy is lazy? Interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Oven Issue
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:02 am 
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Darkside wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
"You call yourself a man?"

That's what I feel every handyman we ever hired is thinking about me when I bring them in to do something.
:lol: I've thought the same thing.


My first house had a Sears wall heater in an add on room. It didn't work and I didn't know jack squat about it. So I called Sears. A guy came out and fixed it. I think it was a $50 part, but it cost almost $100 just to get him there before he did anything. Total bill was about $300. The guy said "you think this is too much?" I said yes it is. He said (direct quote) "That's what you get when you have someone come do your work for you."

I haven't bought a thing from Sears since.

You have a shitty attitude. Yeah the part is $50. You think he is free labor? That his truck and gas and insurance doesn't cost anything? How about the fact that he had the knowledge to know which part to fix and how to fix it?

I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?

Had a customer this summer call for a no cooling call. Lawyer. Big place in a gated community. They've got 3 ac units in this place. Condenser fan motor is bad on the west main floor unit. I quote 445 for the motor. 68 for the Dispatch. OK this guy goes bananas. The motor is only 200 at grainger he screams at me. Mind you it's about 6pm on a Friday. I want to go fucking home man. He says fuck you I'll go buy the motor and put it in myself. Fine.

Monday I have to go back. He bought the motor at grainger but a couple things. He didn't put in the right capacitor. The new one needed 7.5 cap and he hooked up the old 5 cap which was testing around 4 as it was bad anyway. The cap is included automatically when I replace a motor. Also, he managed to wire it wrong to the contactor, so he killed the start winding on a brand new motor. While he was at it he managed to ruin the fan blades because he pried the fan blade hub off the rusty shaft all wrong.

So now... a second Dispatch charge. The original 445 for the motor. Plus another 200 for the fan blades. Not to mention the 200 or so for the grainger motor he killed. They wouldn't take it back. Not to mention the 4 or 5 hours he spent fucking around with it .


sounds about right. people always act like maintenance guys are lazy and get paid more than they should make.... but we do jobs they literally cannot do if they try :roll:

btw, protip: if you can wait for the 1-2 day shipping, zoro.com is owned by grainger and nearly their entire product line is on there for 20-50% less than granger sells it for.

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 Post subject: Re: Oven Issue
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You have a shitty attitude. Yeah the part is $50. You think he is free labor? That his truck and gas and insurance doesn't cost anything? How about the fact that he had the knowledge to know which part to fix and how to fix it?

I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?



You are a tradesman. That means you are greedy, lazy, stupid, and overpaid. Unlike those hard working people in office jobs, who waste half of their day on Facebook, the CSFMB, and Candy Crush.

You probably have the nerve to take a break at some point during the day.

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Had a customer this summer call for a no cooling call. Lawyer. Big place in a gated community. They've got 3 ac units in this place. Condenser fan motor is bad on the west main floor unit. I quote 445 for the motor. 68 for the Dispatch. OK this guy goes bananas. The motor is only 200 at grainger he screams at me. Mind you it's about 6pm on a Friday. I want to go fucking home man. He says fuck you I'll go buy the motor and put it in myself. Fine.

Monday I have to go back. He bought the motor at grainger but a couple things. He didn't put in the right capacitor. The new one needed 7.5 cap and he hooked up the old 5 cap which was testing around 4 as it was bad anyway. The cap is included automatically when I replace a motor. Also, he managed to wire it wrong to the contactor, so he killed the start winding on a brand new motor. While he was at it he managed to ruin the fan blades because he pried the fan blade hub off the rusty shaft all wrong.

So now... a second Dispatch charge. The original 445 for the motor. Plus another 200 for the fan blades. Not to mention the 200 or so for the grainger motor he killed. They wouldn't take it back. Not to mention the 4 or 5 hours he spent fucking around with it .


Really. Smart. Lawyers.

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People like that look down their nose at everybody, not just tradesmen. A prick is a prick is a prick.

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I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?

I always thought that the free beer and NHL 95 tournaments were fair compensation for the markup :D

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You have a shitty attitude. Yeah the part is $50. You think he is free labor? That his truck and gas and insurance doesn't cost anything? How about the fact that he had the knowledge to know which part to fix and how to fix it?

I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?

Had a customer this summer call for a no cooling call. Lawyer. Big place in a gated community. They've got 3 ac units in this place. Condenser fan motor is bad on the west main floor unit. I quote 445 for the motor. 68 for the Dispatch. OK this guy goes bananas. The motor is only 200 at grainger he screams at me. Mind you it's about 6pm on a Friday. I want to go fucking home man. He says fuck you I'll go buy the motor and put it in myself. Fine.

Monday I have to go back. He bought the motor at grainger but a couple things. He didn't put in the right capacitor. The new one needed 7.5 cap and he hooked up the old 5 cap which was testing around 4 as it was bad anyway. The cap is included automatically when I replace a motor. Also, he managed to wire it wrong to the contactor, so he killed the start winding on a brand new motor. While he was at it he managed to ruin the fan blades because he pried the fan blade hub off the rusty shaft all wrong.

So now... a second Dispatch charge. The original 445 for the motor. Plus another 200 for the fan blades. Not to mention the 200 or so for the grainger motor he killed. They wouldn't take it back. Not to mention the 4 or 5 hours he spent fucking around with it .

Why are you posting this?

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You have a shitty attitude. Yeah the part is $50. You think he is free labor? That his truck and gas and insurance doesn't cost anything? How about the fact that he had the knowledge to know which part to fix and how to fix it?

I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?

Had a customer this summer call for a no cooling call. Lawyer. Big place in a gated community. They've got 3 ac units in this place. Condenser fan motor is bad on the west main floor unit. I quote 445 for the motor. 68 for the Dispatch. OK this guy goes bananas. The motor is only 200 at grainger he screams at me. Mind you it's about 6pm on a Friday. I want to go fucking home man. He says fuck you I'll go buy the motor and put it in myself. Fine.

Monday I have to go back. He bought the motor at grainger but a couple things. He didn't put in the right capacitor. The new one needed 7.5 cap and he hooked up the old 5 cap which was testing around 4 as it was bad anyway. The cap is included automatically when I replace a motor. Also, he managed to wire it wrong to the contactor, so he killed the start winding on a brand new motor. While he was at it he managed to ruin the fan blades because he pried the fan blade hub off the rusty shaft all wrong.

So now... a second Dispatch charge. The original 445 for the motor. Plus another 200 for the fan blades. Not to mention the 200 or so for the grainger motor he killed. They wouldn't take it back. Not to mention the 4 or 5 hours he spent fucking around with it .

Why are you posting this?



Something something something Avaya level 2

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Darkside wrote:
You have a shitty attitude. Yeah the part is $50. You think he is free labor? That his truck and gas and insurance doesn't cost anything? How about the fact that he had the knowledge to know which part to fix and how to fix it?

I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?

Had a customer this summer call for a no cooling call. Lawyer. Big place in a gated community. They've got 3 ac units in this place. Condenser fan motor is bad on the west main floor unit. I quote 445 for the motor. 68 for the Dispatch. OK this guy goes bananas. The motor is only 200 at grainger he screams at me. Mind you it's about 6pm on a Friday. I want to go fucking home man. He says fuck you I'll go buy the motor and put it in myself. Fine.

Monday I have to go back. He bought the motor at grainger but a couple things. He didn't put in the right capacitor. The new one needed 7.5 cap and he hooked up the old 5 cap which was testing around 4 as it was bad anyway. The cap is included automatically when I replace a motor. Also, he managed to wire it wrong to the contactor, so he killed the start winding on a brand new motor. While he was at it he managed to ruin the fan blades because he pried the fan blade hub off the rusty shaft all wrong.

So now... a second Dispatch charge. The original 445 for the motor. Plus another 200 for the fan blades. Not to mention the 200 or so for the grainger motor he killed. They wouldn't take it back. Not to mention the 4 or 5 hours he spent fucking around with it .


It's rough to get the bill sometimes. I sometimes know whats going on but sometimes we have to call my husband. I do the best I can, always offer water or coffee or pop. If they are friendly we talk, there is a huge variation in personalities.


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 Post subject: Re: Oven Issue
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I hate it when people bitch at me when we charge $100 for what they think is a $40 part. Do you think that parts should be installed for free with no markup?

I always thought that the free beer and NHL 95 tournaments were fair compensation for the markup :D

Works for me.

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