The typical Cub fan metamorphoses like a butterfly. As a child his dad takes him to one or two games per season (the egg stage). He moves to Broville after studying accounting at a Big Ten university and attends 10-12 games a year (the pupa stage). Then he moves in with a girlfriend in Lincoln Park or the West Loop and cuts back to five or six (the larvae stage). Finally, he marries and moves to Schaumburg or Arlington Heights and only attends when someone comps him a ticket. This is the adult stage also known as the Scorehead stage.

Baseball is quickly losing interest among youth and becoming a sport for retirees. Even though the Cubs are relatively good their TV ratings are middle of the pack and their attendance is only 7th in MLB.

There are less people who care about baseball in Chicago. Unfortunately for the 30K-60K remaining Sox fans in the Chicagoland their franchise is doing nothing about grabbing a smaller pie. You have the Cubs marketing their young stars everywhere, upgrading the ballpark, investing in major talent, scouting, Dominican/Venezuela, minor leagues, promotions (4th of July fireworks), etc. Cubs are pouring money into the organization to improve every aspect.

The Sox, on the other had, seem to take pride in alienating their fanbase with shitty announcers, exclusionairy seating policies and terrible on-field product. It's like their trying to outdo Loria in destroying a fanbase.

It's crummy that a team that's resided in Chicago for over 100 years will have to move but it's reality. I see the Chicago Fire eclipsing the Sox in relevancy within 3 years at the latest.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Then explain the dynamics. We have all the time in the world.

I don't see what's objectionable there. How many tickets do you think they were unable to sell?

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It is an interesting question. Aside from all the normal Cubs/Wrigley arguments there has to be something deeper. Do the Mets have the same issues?

Then explain the dynamics. We have all the time in the world.

The reality is there probably just aren't that many Sox fans out there. I think it would be generous to say it's a 75/25 split in the Chicagoland area.

And no this isn't a knock on Sox nation.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

I dont think it is that close to 50-50. Maybe in and around Chicago it is closer to that.

But get away from the Chicago land and you will see that there are no Sox fans around. I have lived in Missouri for 15 years. I do not think I have ever ran across a Sox fan in that time. I have ran across a lot of Cub fans.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

I dont think it is that close to 50-50. Maybe in and around Chicago it is closer to that.

But get away from the Chicago land and you will see that there are no Sox fans around. I have lived in Missouri for 15 years. I do not think I have ever ran across a Sox fan in that time. I have ran across a lot of Cub fans.

I also believe that outside of transplanted Chicagoans, the White Sox do not have much in terms of a national fan base, where as the Cubs do.

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RFDC is correct. There are very few Sox fans in any part of Illinois outside of Chicagoland. In fact, I honestly can't recall one from when I was growing up. That's why the Cubs-Sox rivalry didn't mean anything to me.

RFDC is not right, because he said there were no Sox fans around.

I've spent time in multiple areas around the Midwest. They exist everywhere too. They just don't have the numbers of the Cubs or Cardinals.

The Cubs-Cardinals rivarly is huge south of I-80 and points west so it gets featured very prominently.

RFDC is not right, because he said there were no Sox fans around.

I've spent time in multiple areas around the Midwest. They exist everywhere too. They just don't have the numbers of the Cubs or Cardinals.

The Cubs-Cardinals rivarly is huge south of I-80 and points west so it gets featured very prominently.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Well of course Brick I was not literally saying there are no Sox fans anywhere.

But they are few and far between in comparison to the Cubs and other teams.

I am sure in a place as big as the NY metro area you can find someone wearing the team hat of just about every team under the sun.

It's obviously unscientific, but I just asked my parents, who worked at a blue collar factory in West-Central Illinois for 40+ years, with about 500 blue collar workers, what they thought the Cubs/Cards/Sox split was at the factory. They guessed 55% Cubs/40% Cardinals/5% Sox. I would say based on my observations that that was pretty accurate where I grew up.

I'm not really sure what you were saying then.

The Sox seem to have a following equal to most other Midwestern teams besides the local team(Cardinals/Royals) and the Cubs.

I mean, your anecdotal evidence was that you had never seen a Sox fan in all of Missouri for 15 years. It isn't a stretch for me to think you were making a case that Sox fans virtually don't exist in Missouri.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

I think you know exactly what I was saying. You just like to Brick.

I have literally never met a Sox fan while living in Missouri. That is fact. I have met many Cub fans. I realize there are Sox fans who live in Missouri.

"But get away from the Chicago land and you will see that there are no Sox fans around."

Just saying...

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Again I did not mean there was literally no sox fans around. I have explained this 2 times.

Just saying...