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 Post subject: MLB/Joe Torre
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:40 pm 
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LAD INF Utley has been suspended for Games 3 & 4 of NLDS as a result of his illegal slide in the 7th inning on Sat.

um...lost your damn fool mind.


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Nope. It was dirty. About time to enforce this crap

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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He'll appeal and not serve a game until next year.

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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What an idiotic suspension.

That type of slide is common. The suspension was only levied due to the national exposure and the 2B being an idiot by having his back turned and helicoptering.

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What an idiotic suspension.

That type of slide is common. The suspension was only levied due to the national exposure and the 2B being an idiot by having his back turned and helicoptering.

A farce


This part is true, but the tragedy is that, if it was illegal, why wasn't it enforced during the fucking game?

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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What an idiotic suspension.

That type of slide is common. The suspension was only levied due to the national exposure and the 2B being an idiot by having his back turned and helicoptering.

A farce

There is a new emphasis on the "neighborhood play" ever since replay came around.
This penalty is almost REQUIRED because of MLB's stance on the neighborhood play.


Actually, forget all of that. Utley is a notorious raging DB. Suspend hm for any reason. Hell, make one up.

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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Takeout slides are common. Slides that do not even start until the runner has past the bag are not.

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Kirkwood wrote:
What an idiotic suspension.

That type of slide is common. The suspension was only levied due to the national exposure and the 2B being an idiot by having his back turned and helicoptering.

A farce


This part is true, but the tragedy is that, if it was illegal, why wasn't it enforced during the fucking game?

That play, and the ensuing replay, was a gigantic cluster

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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Because it's not an illegal slide is my guess.

It's one of those "oh shit, New York is mad! We gotta do something!"


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Takeout slides are common. Slides that do not even start until the runner has past the bag are not.

Frank with the best post of the thread.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Takeout slides are common. Slides that do not even start until the runner has past the bag are not.


This.


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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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According to screen shots I saw on Twitter, it was illegal... the rule just isn't enforced. But who knows... it's Twitter.

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From an ABC article:

"A comment in the Official Baseball Rules to Rule 5.09 (a) (13) says umpires could have called an inning-ending double play if they decided Utley had gone outside the baseline and interfered with Tejada fielding the throw.

"The objective of this rule is to penalize the offensive team for deliberate, unwarranted, unsportsmanlike action by the runner in leaving the baseline for the obvious purpose of crashing the pivot man on a double play, rather than trying to reach the base," the comment says. "Obviously this is an umpire's judgment play."

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ ... e-34399733

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Takeout slides are common. Slides that do not even start until the runner has past the bag are not.

A 2-game suspension is not warranted.


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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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Kirkwood wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Takeout slides are common. Slides that do not even start until the runner has past the bag are not.

A 2-game suspension is not warranted.

Apparently it is though.

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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Kirkwood wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Takeout slides are common. Slides that do not even start until the runner has past the bag are not.

A 2-game suspension is not warranted.

Possibly agree.
How long is the broken leg gonna take to heal?

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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He slid when he got to the base.

He was close to the bag.

He's a douchebag, but the slide wasn't illegal.

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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When if ever has a player been suspended for a "dirty" slide to 2nd?

If you intentionally throw at a batter, charge the mound, bump an umpire, throw a punch, bang on the opponents clubhouse door, etc you know you'll likely face a suspension.

There is literally not one instance I can think of a slide earning a suspension.

So, we'll start now?

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He slid when he got to the base.

He was close to the bag.

He's a douchebag, but the slide wasn't illegal.

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He slid when he was closer to left center than the bag.

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His hand literally passed right over the bag.

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what gets me is why would you as a receiver of the throw, turn your back to the player coming at you? It's just asking for it...

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 Post subject: Re: MLB/Joe Torre
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If that's legal (and I don't know the letter of the rule), they need to change the rule. It's dumb. Eliminate any ambiguity regarding the neighborhood play (eliminate it) and then force runners to go to the bag, specifically. I realize it's only being talked about now due to the stage and the effect it had on a huge game, but that's how most things get changed.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
His hand literally passed right over the bag.

If he slid before passing the bag over his hand wouldn't have gone over it now would it?

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
He slid when he got to the base.

He was close to the bag.

:shock: Look where his ass/backside lands....2 feet past the base?

It was dirty as hell.

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what gets me is why would you as a receiver of the throw, turn your back to the player coming at you? It's just asking for it...

What?
He was already turning that way because of the throw. You think it's easier to stop/turn back the other way?

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Sure it would've.

He slide at the base. Not after.

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Sometimes I think some of you argue just for the sake of it....it was clearly dirty.

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Sure it would've.

He slide at the base. Not after.

The blimp passed over second base too... doesn't mean it tried to slide into it

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Sometimes I think some of you argue just for the sake of it....it was clearly dirty.

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Darkside wrote:
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Sure it would've.

He slide at the base. Not after.

The blimp passed over second base too... doesn't mean it tried to slide into it


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