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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:48 am

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i would like the games scheduled for primetime simply so fans of the participating teams are able to watch them.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:50 am

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I think MLB is banking on the fact that the Cubs and Cardinals have huge portions of their fanbase who are unemployed.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:56 am

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

I think MLB is banking on the fact that the Cubs and Cardinals have huge portions of their fanbase who are unemployed.

I chuckled.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

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For the f*ckin' nickel-dime people who turn up? The motherf*ckers don't even work. That's why they're out at the f*ckin' game. They oughta go out and get a f*ckin' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a f*ckin' living. Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers. Rip them motherf*ckers. Rip them f*ckin' cocks*ckers like the f*ckin' players.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:00 am

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The day games on weekdays make zero sense. Marker your product, MLB. Southerners probably aren't watching an LA-NY matchup anyway, but they're definitely not watching it while Maury Povich is on.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:04 am

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leashyourkids wrote:

The day games on weekdays make zero sense. Marker your product, MLB. Southerners probably aren't watching an LA-NY matchup anyway, but they're definitely not watching it while Maury Povich is on.

There probably is an argument for running games opposite each other in prime time. There are many fans of particular teams who have minimal interest in the other game(s). But MLB is foolishly misunderstanding its audience and attempting to emulate the NFL. The football fan will watch a designated TV game for reasons that do not exist with baseball, i.e. fantasy players, gambling.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:08 am

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Yeah, really, world's not gonna end if the Cubs and Blue Jays are playing at the same time.

Conversely, I wish Saturday afternoons just had one national game of the week, the way God intended, but even that "regional coverage" is another attempt to emulate the NFL.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:22 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

The day games on weekdays make zero sense. Marker your product, MLB. Southerners probably aren't watching an LA-NY matchup anyway, but they're definitely not watching it while Maury Povich is on.

Without any actual data, I would have to think so. Even if you're splitting viewers with simultaneous night games, you would think the number of potential viewers at night is five times higher, anyway. Plus you're probably pissing off local fans.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:26 am

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:43 am

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All mlb playoff games should be 7pm eastern time. Two on at the same time is fine.. Im at the bar anyway

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:53 am

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The New York angle is overplayed. The Mets are like the White Sox, a distant second in a two team town.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:09 am

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:21 am

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Great choice on which body to put Bosio's head. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:35 am

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ChicagoEd wrote:

The New York angle is overplayed. The Mets are like the White Sox, a distant second in a two team town.

a "town" with an urban population about 3X greater than Chicago and a regional population that is probably even more dominating

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:36 am

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good dolphin wrote:

ChicagoEd wrote:

The New York angle is overplayed. The Mets are like the White Sox, a distant second in a two team town.

a "town" with an urban population about 3X greater than Chicago and a regional population that is probably even more dominating

The Mets are worth roughly the same as the Cubs, and that is with gross mismanagement that even Ricketts/Tribune couldn't match.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:41 am

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Regarding the rivalry stuff...MLB Network has billed Cubs / Cardinals as equal to Boston / New York of the early 2000's. That this series is the introduction to a rivalry that will dominate baseball over the next decade.

I think nationally...this rivalry will seem bigger than it actually is.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:48 am

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IMU wrote:

Regarding the rivalry stuff...MLB Network has billed Cubs / Cardinals as equal to Boston / New York of the early 2000's.

...and the Big Ten Network calls the Purdue-IU rivalry a great one too every year as they show it on BTN++.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:52 am

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ChicagoEd wrote:

The New York angle is overplayed. The Mets are like the White Sox, a distant second in a two team town.

The main difference being that in New York the more successful team on the field is the popular one.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

ChicagoEd wrote:

The New York angle is overplayed. The Mets are like the White Sox, a distant second in a two team town.

The main difference being that in New York the more successful team on the field is the popular one.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:58 am

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

Regarding the rivalry stuff...MLB Network has billed Cubs / Cardinals as equal to Boston / New York of the early 2000's.

...and the Big Ten Network calls the Purdue-IU rivalry a great one too every year as they show it on BTN++.

Your analogy would work if I had said "NL Central Network"

Which I would subscribe to had I the option.

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Brick

Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:01 am

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IMU wrote:

Your analogy would work if I had said "NL Central Network"

Which I would subscribe to had I the option.

I'm not sure it makes much of a difference, but by number of teams the conference is basically equal to the NL.

The point is that MLB network is going to pump up just about any rivalry.

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:23 am

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hitless Rizzo and KB now at home with wind blowing out perfect time for the breakout game

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Post subject: Re: StLouis @ Chicago 10/12

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:26 am

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Buster wrote:

hitless Rizzo and KB now at home with wind blowing out perfect time for the breakout game

I just got done riding fifteen miles on my bike. If the wind is blowing like it is now during the game, I'd bet a lot of money that at least one of those guys will hit a home run. But it's probably not the best scenario for Arrieta either. His advantage decreases significantly if this is one of those crazy Wrigley games with balls flaying all over the place.

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:39 am

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Arrieta goes yard at least once.

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:42 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Buster wrote:

hitless Rizzo and KB now at home with wind blowing out perfect time for the breakout game

Did you run into Arrieta on his bike?

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:42 am

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:46 am

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:53 am

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I got 10k on the cubs! New f150!!

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:00 pm

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5pm start is a factor if the sun is out. If it's cloudy, it won't matter obviously.

But I think the advantage goes to the Cardinals if there are shadows. Nobody can hit Arietta with shadows or without them. But the Cubs hitters will be bothered by them so it makes their pitcher more equal to Arrieta.

Sun doesn't go down until like 6:30. So that's half the game.

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