He's getting a new contract soon. If you were a GM, what would you pay him? Is he a No.1 receiver? Does he change games enough to pay him among the Top 10 in the league? (they're going to want that)

Talk amongst yourselves. I'll read some on the front nine. That is, if Jurko gets us downtown safely. It never is a given.

I would like to see the Bear re-sign keep both R. Grossman and B. Berrian.

B. Berrian is a #1 receiver and R. Grossman is as good of an option as there will be this offseason. The key is pass protection.

They could give M. Muhammad and B. Griese their walking papers and use that $$ to re-vamp that offensive line (F. Miller and R. Brown gone).

it seems like everyone is overvalued nowadays, and the money doesn't equal the value in most cases.

i don't think berrian is a number 1 wideout, but because of the way the league is now, he'll want number 1 money.

i think the bears can't afford not to overpay the guy because he's their most reliable option as a wide receiver. they'll have to pay.

Berrians Drop off this year is a potential trend. Granted, several top tier receivers have had some off years recently, most notably Randy Moss last year, but, I still do not see Berrian as either a game changer or a top 10 receiver.
That being said, he is the top receiver on the Bears this year.

I do believe that the Bears too often offer contract extensions too soon. I would rather see a big money free agent WR before a resigned overpaid Berrian.

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Yes, I would. He is the only potential game-breaker the Bears' offense has with the possible exception of Greg Olsen.

If they can shore up a woeful o-line so the qb gets some time, he'll be a top 10 WR.

The Bears shouldn't even consider giving Berrian a big contract...and I think Lovie agrees. This team is a running team, they get on the bus running, get off the bus running, they run while they're on the bus....I think I just solved the problem. The offensive line and running backs are tired by the time they get to the stadium....STOP RUNNING EVERYWHERE ELSE!!! SAVE IT FOR THE FIELD!!!

Berrian's not worth the $$$. He's not reliable in the short and intermediate game, the long game is inconsistent by definition and he doesn't have difference-making abilities for that part of the game. Find someone in the 4th round of the draft to replace him. Olsen (and the running backs) should be the main target in this offense next year and Hester could be the inconsistent deep threat.

I don't know how the guy that caught the TD pass yesterday is the same guy who's had pass after pass bounce off his hands all year. He definitely has potential to be good, but is not a #1.

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Berrian is not even in the same neighborhood where #1 receivers are at. #2 on decent teams, #3 on good teams. One touchdown grab on Sunday and most of youse are ready to give him the slurping of his life.

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I think Berrian is a solid Top 20-30 WR and should be paid accordingly.

Factually speaking this season, amongst WRs:

He's 16th in the league in receptions
He's 17th in the league in yardage
He's 23rd in yards per game

He's probably among the leaders in dropped passes too. But seeing as he's working with crap at QB and at offensive coordinator - I give him a bit of a mike mulligan there.

Fred Miller, Adam Archuleta, Moose Muhammad, Rashied Davis and Ruben Brown should be given their pink slips the day after the season is over. I don't think some of these reserve LBs are any good either.

...and Ron Turner too.



I don't know what the hell to tell you about the QBs on the Bears.

B. Berrian IS a #1 receiver. All receivers drop passes. He is continually open (something not all receivers seem to be able to do) and has proven he can take a hit.

Like yesterday, B. Berrian proved last post season that he can be relied upon to make a big catch.

What more evidence do you need to not sign him to a #1 contract?

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what do #1 wide receivers make? I would think he is a 2nd tier #1.
$5 million a year? is that too much?

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Furthermore, the Bears (moving forward) are better WITH him vs. without him.

Grid, I agree with that but let loose the moose and sign a REAL WR FA to put opposite Berrian.

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Doug, the market is what the market is. I don't even care what amount they pay him as long as it's around Top 20-30 money.

If he's asking for Top 10 money (Rosehaus IS his agent) then they need to meet inbetween at around the average of the Top 15-20 WRs salaries. Which truth be told is where he's been this year and last.

Moose's drop yesterday was brutal. He's actually been giving some excellent effort AFTER the catch the past several games. But he's got to catch the ball, and he's due a MEGA roster bonus after this year, so it's hasta la bye bye bitch.

I guess if you consider that Moose will be gone after this year, paying Berrian that salary freed up wouldn't be an issue. If it's any more than Moose was/is making, then forget it....and if he wants a big signing bonus, then tape the check to a football and throw it to him on a 10 yard crossing route with a linebacker and safety in his face...if he catches it, it's his. I'm betting on the drop.

According to STATS, the honor is shared between NO's Henderson and the great Dallas Clark who committed this transgression eight times each.

The top Bear butterfingers belong to Benson and Clark who dropped five each.

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Grid's right. He's not going to break the bank with this season.

They have to field a roster next year. Moose is gone so you have that money. They need to draft an O lineman

What free agent guy is out there that won't resign with his current team? Usually the good ones don't leave their teams.

Bears sign him at a reasonable price.

That's my point. Moose is gone. We know that. If you let Berrian go then who's gonna be your receivers?

Everybody says to sign a free agent. Who the hell is out there that's better than Berrian?

You need sombody on the roster?

I guess you draft a wide out in the 3rd round. But he won't be a stud.

Don't forget, the Bears have to get a RB too. Shit, this team needs alot.

The 'o' line is a turnstile and needs to be revamped or blown up or something. Need a RB, QB , and upgrades at Wideout. This is a 8 and 8 team at best fellas which will give you a mid first round pick and if Jake Long the hugh tackle from Michigan is there or you can move up and grab him do it or a quailty RB are there you grab them. This draft will have a lot of skill position players in it so Jerry better have his offenseive hat on at this years draft.

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Hub said the Bears might sign Turner from the Chargers. They need too. That takes care of RB.

If they can't get him they can find sombody. RB's are the easiest position to fill. Not great guys but there is somone on some roster that is better then what we have.

You get the RB in free agency. You get 2 O linemen in the draft. I'd get one in the 1st and one in the 2nd round. I don't know. Maybe they can get a free agent too.

Sign Berrian and get a WR in the 3rd. There you go Angelo.

I think the Bears have an extra 3rd rounder this year from the Thomas Jones trade. Draft a safety with that.

Moose has to be in that photo...He had three yesterday (I think).

Pay Berrian whatever the 17th ranked #1 WR makes.
Berrians numbers are nearly identical to last year, with 5 games to play.
2006 51rec 775yds 15.2avg 6TD
2007 54rec 733yds 13.6avg 3TD

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Bernard Berrian is not a #1 WR. Unfortunatley, if he hits the open market, he's probably going to be overpaid as this is a weak position on the open market, and all it takes is one team. He's not a game changer, but on the Bears, he's as close to one as they have.

The Bears are in a really tough spot here. You have Mushin Muhammed who will need to take a pay cut to come back, Berrian, and then much else at the WR spot so, from the Bears point of view, he is a premium player given the weakness the team has at that spot.

As much as I would like him back, if he gets onto the market, I'd guess that there's only a 40% chance of the Bears opening up the pocket book in a major way for him. Jerry Angelo has a history of locking up young players early on, and he didn't do that for Berrian - that could be an indicator of whether he plans on bringing him back. The other point to be made is on Lance Briggs - the Bears have indicated that they may be willing to sign him long-term now, and they also may address a contract extension for Tommie Harris this off-season. I didn't even mention Rex Grossman, who as bad as he is, may be their best option for next season. There is only so much money to go around, and Berrian may become the odd man out as the Bears look to find ways to improve their offensive line, and re-establish their ground game.

I'll be honest, I was out and out SHOCKED that Berrian's numbers were that 'good' this year.

I knew he regressed this year, and I know the Bears passing game and QBs suck overall.

HOW in the hell could Berrian's numbers be that high?

I'd love to see what an INNOVATIVE offensive coordinator could do with our TE tandem and with Hester/Berrian and another LEGIT wide receiver.

Berrian is a #1 WR on the Bears, and maybe other teams where WR is a major weakness (like on a team like Minnesota/Tennesee), but he's a #2 WR on a stronger offense.

Getting rid of Muhammed and Griese only opens some room, but certainly not enough to make a major committment to a free agent as well as resign Briggs/Harris/Grossman/Berrian.

I knew he wasn't as bad as people thought. He is what he is. A decent #2 receiver. Pay him whatever that's worth.

No team in the NFL will overpay for him. So just sign him. No big deal.

If he's NOT a #1WR, then why is he statistically better than most #1WRs on other teams?

I agree he should have caught it but 3 points 1st there was a penalty on the play so it was still a 1st down. Second the ball was under thrown which allowed Bly to come back on help to breakup the play. I don't think they are using Moose in the right position on the field. Make him the slot reciever except in the red zone where he can use his body on the fade.

Because other teams have #2's that are better then Berrian. So the ball gets spread around more on other teams. Don't let numbers mislead you.

He's not a #1. You know what. There are 32 teams in the NFL. Not all teams have "that true stud #1"

Every team has a go to receiver but that doesn't mean he's an "NFL #1"