http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?query_type=franch_round&team_ID=CHW&draft_round=1&draft_type=junreg

*Compensation Picks
Keon Barnum (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Mark Buehrle
Keenyn Walker (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent J.J. Putz
Josh Phegley (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Orlando Cabrera
Tyler Lumsden (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Bartolo Colon
Gio Gonzalez (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Tom Gordon
Kris Honel (White Sox-1) - Pick from Marlins as compensation for Free Agent Charles Johnson
Wyatt Allen (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Charles Johnson
Matt Ginter (White Sox-1) - Pick from Mets as compensation for Free Agent Robin Ventura
Brian West (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Albert Belle
Rob Purvis (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Robin Ventura
Aaron Rowand (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Dave Martinez
Kyle Kane (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Alex Fernandez
Brett Caradonna (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Kevin Tapani
Aaron Myette (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Alex Fernandez
Jim Parque (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Alex Fernandez
Rocky Biddle (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental pick for failure to sign 1996 No. 1 choice Bobby Seay
Chris Clemons (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Ellis Burks
Tony Menendez (White Sox-1) - Pick from Blue Jays as compensation for Free Agent Dennis Lamp
Joel Davis (White Sox-1) - Pick from Yankees as compensation for Free Agent Steve Kemp
Russ Morman (White Sox-1s) - Supplemental Pick for loss of Free Agent Bill Almon
Ricky Seilheimer (White Sox-1) - Pick from Orioles as compensation for Free Agent Steve Stone

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I'll give SHARK this, he made the right call with baseball.

I didn't think so at the time.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

It is the same for all free agents who spent the entire year with the same team (no comp for David Price..just like last yera fo r Jon Lester.)... even the Cubs Dexter Fowler,,, that is part of the CBA.

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Every free agent's QO is $16 million? That's crazy.

What's the point? Anybody good enough to get offered it would never take it.

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Fwiw ? Not much ... I've never heard him break anything in 12 years on ESPN or The Score.. He's Zack Zaidman of Baseball .

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exactly ...NO player has ever accepted the qualifying offer...EVER.

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Is THE INQUISTOR a BIG FAN of Shark?

They never have.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

There is some thought that Samardzija could be the first though. He might be the strangest free agent ever.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

You mean worst.

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I could see him taking it. Most guys never get the big pay day until they reach free agency...he got paid to sign his first contract and pass up the NFL...fpr big $$$$. He is financially set and might be willing to take the one year deal and try to improve so he can go back and try for more money in 2017.

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I'd heard that. But I'd never stopped to think about why this rule even exists and who negotiated for it and why.

But, I agree, if Shark gets offered, he should take it.

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Gotta think the Players Union pushed that through..which is great for MLBPA if a shitball like the Guppy is guaranteed 16 million.




@ Inquiz - Gotta think his confidence is shook and he knows deep down..He's not built for the A.L. ..I'd expect the same results if he came back for the Sox. I bet he can't wait to get to a new city and start over

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But he isn't guaranteed it. I'd always assumed it was some kind of sliding scale, like an arbitration.

Nobody would offer it to someone bad enough take it and nobody good enough for the offer would take it. So, what kind of attorney wasted everybody's time for this BS provision?

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Probably the same one who wrote the "process of a catch" rule in the NFL, where if you make the catch and then reach for the goal line its suddenly becomes an incomplete pass.

Now that I think about it, those silly rules do have some Pantheresque qualities to them do they not?

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I always thought it was a way to hamper Theo and the Red Sox who would load up on guys with one year left so they could specifically get those extra picks when they left.

Problem is, nobody is accepting those QO's so teams are still getting compensatory picks though not at the rate they once were because of the mid-season trade provision. It's kind of like the whole arbitration process no? Didn't the owners come up with that as a way to control spending only to see it backfire?

Bernsie's head would explode.

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The average of the top 125 players has gone up and up and up. It wasn't such a high number at the time it was originally incorporated into the CBA. The rule is really there to help small market teams who are unable to re-sign their own top tier free agents.

At various junctures there has been talk about eliminating the compensatory picks, naturally driven by the big market franchises. In Moneyball, Michael Lewis unfairly tries to paint Kenny Williams as a dope and Billy Beane as a genius over the late season Ray Durham/Jon Adkins trade when the truth is it was well known in baseball at the time that the elimination of the compensatory picks was imminent. That's why the Sox couldn't get more for Durham as he would be far less valuable as a two month rental with no picks. As it turned out, Beane won that gamble and got his two picks. But the rule did change down the road as there are now no picks for guys who are traded at the deadline. That's why the Cubs didn't give up a pick for signing Lester.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If Shark accepts $15.8M can the Sox offer another QO next year?

If Sox are allowed to offer again I don't really see the downside for either side if Shark accepts.

Sure. But I think Samardzija believes he will minimally get the amount of the QO times four or five years on the open market. And I believe he is correct.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Ya, agreed. Plus he won't have to deal with Coop's drunk ass.

Agreed.

best move for both sides

The Sox simply must let Johnson start the year in the rotation so they can properly assess what he is.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

It's almost always the right call.

He'd probably be wrapping up a football career right now. I'd be shocked if he doesn't have another 8-10 years of baseball.

Also, you look at NFL contracts and those guys are poorly compensated in comparison to other sports and considering the long term toll on their bodies.

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And men have lost their reason.

Would one good year really change your opinion of what he is, for better or worse?

I don't think he is as bad as his bad stretch this year. I do think he has dominant stretches. I do think he fades at the end of the year.

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And men have lost their reason.

I have no idea where he will sign but I believe he is going to end up with 5-years and $90 million.

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I think that sounds about right. He has enough stuff and little mileage on his arm with no injury history, there are going to be teams that believe they can get his best years.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Holy shit! We are in agreement on something! I need a drink!

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Host of the weekly "We Fish ASA" podcast
Weekly columnist for the Northwest Herald
Bi-monthly columnist for Illinois Outdoor News magazine
Former host of The Outdoors Experience on WIND and The Great Outdoors on CLTV
http://www.wefishasa.com

Do we disagree a lot? I don't really think so. You're just one of those mean Cub fans.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Not a mean bone in my body! I'm the nicest guy in the world.
I am a huge Cub fan and don't really care about the Sox.

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Host of the weekly "We Fish ASA" podcast
Weekly columnist for the Northwest Herald
Bi-monthly columnist for Illinois Outdoor News magazine
Former host of The Outdoors Experience on WIND and The Great Outdoors on CLTV
http://www.wefishasa.com