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I have a total man crush on Schwarber, so my heart would not allow talk of trading him.


That's what I would expect.

From my perspective, everything but his power is unproven.

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An outfield of Avi and Soler would be entertaining.

No balls would be caught and no hits would be home runs. But they would look the part of badass baseball player.


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Quintana for Soler. Straight up.

No way the Cubs could move Schwarber after this post season.


Soler? I don't want him as PART of a trade, let only the only part.

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An outfield of Avi and Soler would be entertaining.

No balls would be caught and no hits would be home runs. But they would look the part of badass baseball player.


They could each play the 81 games the other didn't play due to injury

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good dolphin wrote:
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Quintana for Soler. Straight up.

No way the Cubs could move Schwarber after this post season.


Soler? I don't want him as PART of a trade, let only the only part.


Quintana is under team control for another 4 or 5 seasons at an extremely reasonable cost, and has consistently put up #2 (or #3 on some high end rotations) type numbers. There's no way you can move that type of quality of player for one good prospect. Quintana should bring back 2 high end prospects.


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good dolphin wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Quintana for Soler. Straight up.

No way the Cubs could move Schwarber after this post season.


Soler? I don't want him as PART of a trade, let only the only part.


Quintana is under team control for another 4 or 5 seasons at an extremely reasonable cost, and has consistently put up #2 (or #3 on some high end rotations) type numbers. There's no way you can move that type of quality of player for one good prospect. Quintana should bring back 2 high end prospects.


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BD wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Quintana for Soler. Straight up.

No way the Cubs could move Schwarber after this post season.


Soler? I don't want him as PART of a trade, let only the only part.


Quintana is under team control for another 4 or 5 seasons at an extremely reasonable cost, and has consistently put up #2 (or #3 on some high end rotations) type numbers. There's no way you can move that type of quality of player for one good prospect. Quintana should bring back 2 high end prospects.


I'd use the haul a couple of the teams got at the trading deadline as the guide. Quintana isn't Cueto but Cueto wasn't under reasonable control

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Schwarber doesn't have a future in the NL. I'm not giving up Quintana to get him, though. Nor Rodon. The Sox have nothing else anyone wants so its whatever. Theo knows he has to deal Schwarber this offseason and Cubs fans are just going to have to deal with it, they aren't going to win 97 games again next year with him bumbling around the LF like an idiot. And really, his value isn't going any higher than it already is.

I would just like to see LaRoche jettisoned by any means necessary and a couple decent ballplayers. Nothing crazy, they dont need to go blow another $100m, just a couple of guys who can play.


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I'd start with one guy who can manage.

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He has not been bumbling around the OF. He has been pretty solid. He is not going to be great in the OF, but he is can be decent enough to keep his bat.

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Schwarber doesn't have a future in the NL. I'm not giving up Quintana to get him, though. Nor Rodon. The Sox have nothing else anyone wants so its whatever. Theo knows he has to deal Schwarber this offseason and Cubs fans are just going to have to deal with it, they aren't going to win 97 games again next year with him bumbling around the LF like an idiot. And really, his value isn't going any higher than it already is.

I would just like to see LaRoche jettisoned by any means necessary and a couple decent ballplayers. Nothing crazy, they dont need to go blow another $100m, just a couple of guys who can play.


You couldn't get Rodon for Schwarber on draft day or any day thereafter despite what some may think. He is less touchable than Sale, in my opinion.

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He has not been bumbling around the OF. He has been pretty solid. He is not going to be great in the OF, but he is can be decent enough to keep his bat.

Game 2 was a trainwreck. He was almost on the IF dirt and couldn't stop the runner from tagging to score, his own catcher back behind the plate expecting a real throw. He got off to poor jumps throughout, never led to a hit but sometimes baseball lets you get away with a few.


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You couldn't get Rodon for Schwarber on draft day or any day thereafter despite what some may think. He is less touchable than Sale, in my opinion.

I wouldn't go as far as Sale, but yea, the Sox would have to overwhelmed to deal Rodon. The Sox have to know that if they add just some average players at only 2 or 3 positions they have a rotation that can carry them to the deadline, where they can then add another bat if need be.

Selling Rodon/Sale/Quintana is one step forward two steps back, and after nearly a decade of making deals just to make deals and shake things up, I'd hope the Sox finally have learned to appreciate what they have.


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You love exaggeration. Thats cool. you are a little easier to read version of Sini

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RFDC wrote:
You love exaggeration. Thats cool. you are a little easier to read version of Sini

Dayan Viciedo gets the out at home there and you know it. Dayan f'in Viciedo one of the worst LFers I have ever seen.

You act like going forward the Cubs have this giant margin for error, that they can afford a shitty defender here or a couple bad pitchers in the rotation... that's not how baseball works. That's how you wind up like the White Sox.


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RFDC wrote:
You love exaggeration. Thats cool. you are a little easier to read version of Sini

Dayan Viciedo gets the out at home there and you know it. Dayan f'in Viciedo one of the worst LFers I have ever seen.

You act like going forward the Cubs have this giant margin for error, that they can afford a shitty defender here or a couple bad pitchers in the rotation... that's not how baseball works. That's how you wind up like the White Sox.

I am not acting like anything of the sort. I simply said Schwarber has been decent in the OF. Decent enough to keep his bat around. That is all.

Feel free to keep exagerating tho.

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As Wanny would say about Schwarber...he'll be fine.

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RFDC wrote:
I am not acting like anything of the sort. I simply said Schwarber has been decent in the OF. Decent enough to keep his bat around. That is all.

Feel free to keep exagerating tho.

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I am not acting like anything of the sort. I simply said Schwarber has been decent in the OF. Decent enough to keep his bat around. That is all.

Feel free to keep exagerating tho.

sup bitch

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My god you are a little piece of shit.

Yep he screwed up and looked awful.

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Season ticket sales are going to be horrible. I suspect they try and shake things up with one of their hairbrained ideas. Trade for a Longoria or something like that.



Other than their drafting style changing, and I guess how can you pass up the best college pitcher, when you draft so early, how do you not look at the products you are putting on the field year after year, and say something has to change?


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America wrote:
RFDC wrote:
You love exaggeration. Thats cool. you are a little easier to read version of Sini

Dayan Viciedo gets the out at home there and you know it. Dayan f'in Viciedo one of the worst LFers I have ever seen.

You act like going forward the Cubs have this giant margin for error, that they can afford a shitty defender here or a couple bad pitchers in the rotation... that's not how baseball works. That's how you wind up like the White Sox.

"The Babes" look to be costing the Cub's their post-season glory.


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I am not acting like anything of the sort. I simply said Schwarber has been decent in the OF. Decent enough to keep his bat around. That is all.

Feel free to keep exagerating tho.

sup bitch

:lol:

My god you are a little piece of shit.

Yep he screwed up and looked awful.

He just cannot stop, will not stop.


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Don't the White Sox have roughly $25 million coming off the payroll after next season when La Roche and Danks are up How does that impact the imaginary 3 year plan? Do they lay low until that money is off the book or they allocate more money into the backend of d deal given that money is off the book?


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Don't the White Sox have roughly $25 million coming off the payroll after next season when La Roche and Danks are up How does that impact the imaginary 3 year plan? Do they lay low until that money is off the book or they allocate more money into the backend of d deal given that money is off the book?



Who would they sign? We know it will not be a big named pitcher. Although, it would be pretty sweet getting Price and or Greinke.


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Don't the White Sox have roughly $25 million coming off the payroll after next season when La Roche and Danks are up How does that impact the imaginary 3 year plan? Do they lay low until that money is off the book or they allocate more money into the backend of d deal given that money is off the book?



Who would they sign? We know it will not be a big named pitcher. Although, it would be pretty sweet getting Price and or Greinke.


If they were going to sign a starting pitcher I couldn't see it being a lefthander. I have to think next year is a season where you just hope they play better than they did last year and wait until LaRoche and Danks are off the books. The option on Alexei is the biggest decision that has to be made. I'm all for letting him go, but it seems like more of a Sox move to exercise the option and kick the shortstop can down the road one more year. I don't expect them to make a whole lot of moves, certainly not any splashy ones. But you never know.

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Don't the White Sox have roughly $25 million coming off the payroll after next season when La Roche and Danks are up How does that impact the imaginary 3 year plan? Do they lay low until that money is off the book or they allocate more money into the backend of d deal given that money is off the book?



Who would they sign? We know it will not be a big named pitcher. Although, it would be pretty sweet getting Price and or Greinke.


If they were going to sign a starting pitcher I couldn't see it being a lefthander. I have to think next year is a season where you just hope they play better than they did last year and wait until LaRoche and Danks are off the books. The option on Alexei is the biggest decision that has to be made. I'm all for letting him go, but it seems like more of a Sox move to exercise the option and kick the shortstop can down the road one more year. I don't expect them to make a whole lot of moves, certainly not any splashy ones. But you never know.



Fair enough, so what is the plan, for the next off season, when Danks and LaSuck is off the books? Hoping they keep picking in the top 10, and take the best college pitcher?


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Cashman wrote:
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Don't the White Sox have roughly $25 million coming off the payroll after next season when La Roche and Danks are up How does that impact the imaginary 3 year plan? Do they lay low until that money is off the book or they allocate more money into the backend of d deal given that money is off the book?



Who would they sign? We know it will not be a big named pitcher. Although, it would be pretty sweet getting Price and or Greinke.


If they were going to sign a starting pitcher I couldn't see it being a lefthander. I have to think next year is a season where you just hope they play better than they did last year and wait until LaRoche and Danks are off the books. The option on Alexei is the biggest decision that has to be made. I'm all for letting him go, but it seems like more of a Sox move to exercise the option and kick the shortstop can down the road one more year. I don't expect them to make a whole lot of moves, certainly not any splashy ones. But you never know.



Fair enough, so what is the plan, for the next off season, when Danks and LaSuck is off the books? Hoping they keep picking in the top 10, and take the best college pitcher?


The plan, I'm sure, is to win with a pitching staff full of young, big arms in 2017 with Sale, Rodon, Quintana, Fullmer and Johnson. Those arms will be supported by a wealth of guys who project to excellent relievers in Montas, Danish and members currently on the team. Plans don't always work.

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The plan, I'm sure, is to win with a pitching staff full of young, big arms in 2017 with Sale, Rodon, Quintana, Fullmer and Johnson. Those arms will be supported by a wealth of guys who project to excellent relievers in Montas, Danish and members currently on the team. Plans don't always work.



I might be wrong, but I thought Fullmer projected to the bullpen. Did you see him pitch at all in the minors(I did not)? Was he good? I thought he had like 2 pitches.


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The plan, I'm sure, is to win with a pitching staff full of young, big arms in 2017 with Sale, Rodon, Quintana, Fullmer and Johnson. Those arms will be supported by a wealth of guys who project to excellent relievers in Montas, Danish and members currently on the team. Plans don't always work.



I might be wrong, but I thought Fullmer projected to the bullpen. Did you see him pitch at all in the minors(I did not)? Was he good? I thought he had like 2 pitches.


I really hope they didn't spend the 8th pick in the draft on a middle reliever. But that would be a very White Sox move. #longliveRoyceRing

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