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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:39 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Hammels was the right call. It just didnt work out

Why? You're #1b pitcher can't start in Wednesday after pitching on Saturday? Why wouldn't you want your best available pitcher on the mound?

There are metrics youve never heard of that indicate it was the prudent move

Its all random

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Hammels was the right call. It just didnt work out

Why? You're #1b pitcher can't start in Wednesday after pitching on Saturday? Why wouldn't you want your best available pitcher on the mound?

There are metrics youve never heard of that indicate it was the prudent move

Its all random

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sinicalypse

Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:40 pm

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

Matches Malone wrote:

There sure seems to be a disconnect between Hammel and Maddon. Hammel didn't even acknowledge him during the pitching change. Can't see Jason coming back next year with that type of rift.

I think this was Hammel's final start as a Cub. I think they will sign a top of the rotation starter as well as either signing or trading for a #3-#4 type. Hendricks will be the 5th starter, with Wood and Richard also given the opportunity to battle for that spot. But Hammel will be traded for a prospect, or in a package that brings back a better starter.

DUDE! dont spoil your subject matter for when you call kap and co..... some of us want 100% fresh stevehurst elm, not rehashed stuff we read tonight!

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:40 pm

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:40 pm

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Why, why, why, is Castro swinging at the first pitch?

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:41 pm

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Grand slam here.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:41 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

None of this second-guessing matters. The Cubs were down 3-0 and will lose this series, and there was no amount of managerial moves that would have prevented it. The Mets have beat them in every possible way.

Disagree. A lot closer than the 19-4 run differential

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:41 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

Disagree. A lot closer than the 19-4 run differential

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Elmhurst Steve

Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:42 pm

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donspiracy wrote:

Why, why, why, is Castro swinging at the first pitch?

Because he got a great pitch to hit. He hit it well. Right street, wrong address.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:43 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

We must be watching different series. Cubs have been pretty solid, the randomness of a short series is rearing its ugly head

It could easily be 2-1 Cubs with a bounce here or there

Really, are you just having fun?

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:43 pm

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Hammels was the right call. It just didnt work out

Why? You're #1b pitcher can't start in Wednesday after pitching on Saturday? Why wouldn't you want your best available pitcher on the mound?

RPB is not a 1b pitcher.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:44 pm

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:

donspiracy wrote:

Why, why, why, is Castro swinging at the first pitch?

Because he got a great pitch to hit. He hit it well. Right street, wrong address.

Hahahahahahaha! That's a great metaphor!

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:45 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

We must be watching different series. Cubs have been pretty solid, the randomness of a short series is rearing its ugly head

It could easily be 2-1 Cubs with a bounce here or there

Really, are you just having fun?

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:46 pm

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Well, get 1 run with bases loaded and no out. Not the best results. Shit at bats by Schwarber and Baez. Schwarber should of killed the 1st pitch hanger. That was their chance and they pissed themselves like they have the rest of the series.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

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Bases loaded, no outs. And get a single run. Mets would have gotten at least 7 or 8.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:47 pm

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sinicalypse wrote:

zach wheeler will be back next june too, so if they stay healthy you're looking at degrom/syndergaard/harvey/matz/wheeler? i take that over the nats any day.

a rotation of 4 TJ patients.

sinicalypse wrote:

dude, you're assumig arrieta and lester have perfect health, let alone hendricks/hammel/price/greinke/etc?

never said that?

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i believe i said that THE PLAN might be better than the mets plan in the bigger picture cuz of the reasning mentioned, cuz as we know pitching health is a crapshoot.... but dude right now is it wrong to say that having 4+ stud pitchers > having 4+ stud young position players when the mets are in the midst of kicking the cubs' ass out of the playoffs without the cubs even getting a lead all series?

a 4 game sample. great conclusion

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:47 pm

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schmitty1121 wrote:

I thought it was the best inning all night!

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Matches Malone

Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:47 pm

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donspiracy wrote:

Matches Malone wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Hammels was the right call. It just didnt work out

I know it's hindsight and it sounds crazy to say, but I wonder if any serious consideration was given to dropping Hammel for Haren this round?

Would have been lucky to get five solid innings out of either of those guys.

Yeah probably just wishful thinking, but damn Hammel has been a gas can for about two months now. I hope it was at least considered.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:48 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Hammels was the right call. It just didnt work out

Why? You're #1b pitcher can't start in Wednesday after pitching on Saturday? Why wouldn't you want your best available pitcher on the mound?

RPB is not a 1b pitcher.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:50 pm

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donspiracy wrote:

Bases loaded, no outs. And get a single run. Mets would have gotten at least 7 or 8.

I'm not sure that's true. I believe Fowler grounded out to start the inning.

Cal said it, so I'm pretty sure it's not true.

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:51 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I can provide this guarantee to Cub fandom.

I will be in attendance and the Cubs are 2-0 in Dr. Ken Playoff Games and 2-0 in Dr. Ken Division Clinching Victories.

For the record, my tix fell through.

Have 2 great seats for tomorrow, though.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:52 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

donspiracy wrote:

Bases loaded, no outs. And get a single run. Mets would have gotten at least 7 or 8.

I'm not sure that's true. I believe Fowler grounded out to start the inning.

Cal said it, so I'm pretty sure it's not true.

Nope, it was right. I'm just not really watching.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:53 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

just get over it dude.... everyone's a TJ patient, bad umps, choking cubs.... THE PLAN > ALL.... i get it. the cubs are set up better than everyone in baseball because they did things the right way. i never even said that the mets have the best long term plan in baseball given the inherent fragility of pitchers, but i'll be damned if the mets plan isnt kicking THE PLAN'S sorry ass out of the playoffs tonight. have a good one!

edit: btw kirkwood, given that baseball is a 162 game schedule that comes dwn to 5, 7, and 7 game series.... 4 game sample sizes in octber become pretty damn significant.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:57 pm

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sinicalypse wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Murphy will leave via free agency and I believe Cespedes as well. They had a very mediocre offense before obtaining Cespedes and may have that issue again.

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Post subject: Re: Mets @ Cubs game 4 NLCS

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:58 pm

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Why is it Fowler didn't make it to 2nd on that ball that fell in? No hustle....

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:58 pm

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At what point would you pinch hit for Ross? I can see starting him for defense but now that you need runs why let him waste an at-bat?

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:59 pm

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Here comes the Ex Sox chubby clown.

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:59 pm

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Bartolo will be gassed running from the bullpen to the mound.

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Elmhurst Steve

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:00 pm

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If Colon was on the Cubs this year, he would have been the #3 starter.

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:02 pm

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Big sexy!!! That's the good bottle of Colon. That's not that High Karate stuff your dad wore!

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