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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:14 pm 
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Assuming Fowler leaves after this season (I doubt that he would take a 1-2 year deal, when he will get better offers) and take his .250 average elsewhere, who hits leadoff next year? Coghlan has hit some leadoff, but unless he gets traded, he would likely be a 4th outfielder for the Cubs next season. So who hits leadoff? Castro did it for a couple years, though he never had a very good OBP. But he would be my guess, unless they add someone who is better suited to the role.

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They'll probably package Castro and Soler for Mike Trout.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
They'll probably package Castro and Soler for Mike Trout.


might have to throw in brett jackson for that one....

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for trout and WHO?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
They'll probably package Castro and Soler for Mike Trout.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
They'll probably package Castro and Soler for Mike Trout.


:lol:

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on a serious note, when does dee gordon become a FA? and if it's a few years off, what could you toss the marlins for him?

i dont fancy him a .300+ hitter, let alone a NL batting champion, every year cuz i remember when hitting .250 was a monumental task for the guy... but if you could get a little flea who gets on base and steals a shit-ton of bases, well one area where this cubs offense could improve is manufacturing runs, because these playoffs exposed them as being way too dependant on the longball when they're up against top top pitching.

having a vintage juan pierre right now would be slick for this team. are you gonna tell me that joe freaking maddon wouldnt mind having a carl crawford type atop his lineup? hrmmmm

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Denard Span would work for me, if they could get him on a 1-2 year deal. he is coming off hip surgery, so not likely to get big offers. if fully recovered, he is a very good CF and leadoff hitter.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
They'll probably package Castro and Soler for Mike Trout.


Don't be an idiot.

We'd have to get a ton of additional prospects to do that deal.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
They'll probably package Castro and Soler for Mike Trout.


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Denard Span would work for me, if they could get him on a 1-2 year deal. he is coming off hip surgery, so not likely to get big offers. if fully recovered, he is a very good CF and leadoff hitter.


So, what about Span???

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Jason Heyward is your 2016 CF and leadoff hitter.


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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Jason Heyward is your 2016 CF and leadoff hitter.


I really doubt it and would not be in favor of that move at all. Almora is going to be a good player and is in CF in 2017 if not before. Martinez is another guy (Cuba) they signed, that scouts are very enthusiastic about playing in CF down the road. Great speed and power. You don't spend 150 million on a position player when you have those already here or on the way shortly, when the money is needed for starting pitching. A stop gap like Span makes a lot more sense.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Ron Wolfley wrote:
Jason Heyward is your 2016 CF and leadoff hitter.


I really doubt it and would not be in favor of that move at all. Almora is going to be a good player and is in CF in 2017 if not before. Martinez is another guy (Cuba) they signed, that scouts are very enthusiastic about playing in CF down the road. Great speed and power. You don't spend 150 million on a position player when you have those already here or on the way shortly, when the money is needed for starting pitching. A stop gap like Span makes a lot more sense.


Fine. Maybe the rumored interest in Heyward is only to drive up the price so the Cardinals have to pay more. If they don't spend money on a hitter, I need Samardzija and one of Price, Zimmermann, Grienke, or Cueto.


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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Jason Heyward is your 2016 CF and leadoff hitter.


I really doubt it and would not be in favor of that move at all. Almora is going to be a good player and is in CF in 2017 if not before. Martinez is another guy (Cuba) they signed, that scouts are very enthusiastic about playing in CF down the road. Great speed and power. You don't spend 150 million on a position player when you have those already here or on the way shortly, when the money is needed for starting pitching. A stop gap like Span makes a lot more sense.


Fine. Maybe the rumored interest in Heyward is only to drive up the price so the Cardinals have to pay more. If they don't spend money on a hitter, I need Samardzija and one of Price, Zimmermann, Grienke, or Cueto.


Samardzija??? OMG, you just lost a lot of credibility. Price, Zimmerman or Greinke-yes! A secondary guy for me is Lackey over Shark. Cheaper, on a shorter deal and just plain better.

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It will be very interesting who they target for the top of the rotation.

I also will take Lackey as a 3/4. Him and Lester are buddies so a good chance that may happen.


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Lester already brought an old man here n he blows.. No more Lester pals..I don't even want Lester here. 155 million for this?

Yovani Gollardo is the second tier arm we need.

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i'd take heyward in a heartbeat for the cubs.... his offense was picking up at the end there and i still think we've yet to see his best there, but you're gonna have to pay the man, shirley.

then trade almora to the marlins for dee gordon.... thereyago!

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i'd take heyward in a heartbeat for the cubs.... his offense was picking up at the end there and i still think we've yet to see his best there.


And he's 26, the same age as Rizzo. Born a day apart.


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