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Sox decline extension


The White Sox declined to pick up a $10 million option for Alexei Ramirez on Wednesday.

Ramirez — a member of the White Sox for the last eight seasons — is set to become a free agent on Saturday morning after the club bought out his contract for $1 million. The move doesn’t entirely rule out a reunion as the White Sox could still re-sign Ramirez in free agency.


While Ramirez produced like a $10 million player in 2014, winning the Silver Slugger Award and being named a Gold Glove finalist, he was one of the worst players in the majors for the first three months last season as he struggled with the glove and at the plate.

Ramirez improved over the final three months and produced a .249/.285/.357 slash line with 10 homers and 62 RBIs in 622 plate appearances last season. Even so, he was only worth minus-0.5 Wins Above Replacement, according to fangraphs.com, down from 3.1 WAR the previous year.

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dont be so quick to say goodbye...

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Is he taking over for Robin?


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Bargain salary to return.

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 Post subject: Re: goodbye Alexei!
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That's fine too, although I'd prefer him gone.

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Given the state of the rest of the team, I'd just assume pay a rookie nothing to miss the playoffs than see Alexei again. I'm not convinced he'll be back on a reduced contract. Some team out there will be willing to overpay his bubble ass.

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He'll be back on a 2/3 year deal and Tim Anderson will either wallow in the minors until he's a non prospect or get traded.


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I also really liked Alexei until this season, and I'd be surprised if he didn't bounce back somewhat. Should go to the NL where anyone can be a star, he'd do well there for a couple of years.


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He's 33... That's about right for a guy who isn't juicing. He's done.

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He's 33... .


yeah right. :lol:

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Lol..true 35

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Many a career has been extended by the National League. Juan Uribe put up two of the best seasons (arguably his best two seasons) at age 33 and 34 for the Dodgers. I love Uribe, but he was nowhere near the player Alexei has been through age 33.


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Many a career has been extended by the National League. Juan Uribe put up two of the best seasons (arguably his best two seasons) at age 33 and 34 for the Dodgers. I love Uribe, but he was nowhere near the player Alexei has been through age 33.


I disagree with that. They had similar careers through listed age 33. The White Sox seemed to think Alexei was better than he was. Maybe Reinsdorf still takes Hawk's advice.

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 Post subject: Re: goodbye Alexei!
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This sets up the Castro for Sale trade.

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 Post subject: Re: goodbye Alexei!
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So, as a GM, if you know you are going to make this move, how do you not demand that Saladino play SS throughout September. Ineptitude from top to bottom.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
America wrote:
Many a career has been extended by the National League. Juan Uribe put up two of the best seasons (arguably his best two seasons) at age 33 and 34 for the Dodgers. I love Uribe, but he was nowhere near the player Alexei has been through age 33.


I disagree with that. They had similar careers through listed age 33. The White Sox seemed to think Alexei was better than he was. Maybe Reinsdorf still takes Hawk's advice.


LOL...nice.

Alexei was awful to start the season...when the games actually mattered. He's had a nice career, but the team is not winning any time soon. Why bother overpaying a player passed his prime who doesn't sell jerseys. Seems like a waste of time and money.

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wdelaney72 wrote:
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America wrote:
Many a career has been extended by the National League. Juan Uribe put up two of the best seasons (arguably his best two seasons) at age 33 and 34 for the Dodgers. I love Uribe, but he was nowhere near the player Alexei has been through age 33.


I disagree with that. They had similar careers through listed age 33. The White Sox seemed to think Alexei was better than he was. Maybe Reinsdorf still takes Hawk's advice.


LOL...nice.

Alexei was awful to start the season...when the games actually mattered. He's had a nice career, but the team is not winning any time soon. Why bother overpaying a player passed his prime who doesn't sell jerseys. Seems like a waste of time and money.


because they are going to have to pay another player past his prime who doesn't sell jersies for 2 years or more rather than the 1 they would have had to pay Alexi.

This is going to be a transition year so there was value in only being encumbered with a one year contract.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
That's fine too, although I'd prefer him gone.


It's time to move on from Ramirez, Beckham, and Bonafacio. I would rather see a kid playing, than any of these guys.

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wdelaney72 wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
America wrote:
Many a career has been extended by the National League. Juan Uribe put up two of the best seasons (arguably his best two seasons) at age 33 and 34 for the Dodgers. I love Uribe, but he was nowhere near the player Alexei has been through age 33.


I disagree with that. They had similar careers through listed age 33. The White Sox seemed to think Alexei was better than he was. Maybe Reinsdorf still takes Hawk's advice.


LOL...nice.

Alexei was awful to start the season...when the games actually mattered. He's had a nice career, but the team is not winning any time soon. Why bother overpaying a player passed his prime who doesn't sell jerseys. Seems like a waste of time and money.


because they are going to have to pay another player past his prime who doesn't sell jersies for 2 years or more rather than the 1 they would have had to pay Alexi.

This is going to be a transition year so there was value in only being encumbered with a one year contract.


Please define these 'transition years" are they similar to the "reloading years" because I know they arent "Rebuilding years"...and how do they work in year 5 of the 3 year plan?

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 Post subject: Re: goodbye Alexei!
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rebuilding years- those years in which the team doesn't have a Cy Young and MVP candidate with which to work.

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rebuilding years- those years in which the team doesn't have a Cy Young and MVP candidate with which to work.


So "CY"Sale and the "Far Superior" Jose don't qualify?

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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
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rebuilding years- those years in which the team doesn't have a Cy Young and MVP candidate with which to work.


So "CY"Sale and the "Far Superior" Jose don't qualify?


of course they do. I called it a transition.

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Now is retooling the same as reloading or does it occur after a transition year?


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ChicagoEd wrote:
Now is retooling the same as reloading or does it occur after a transition year?


I'll have to ask Scooter if your high school teachers seemed frustrated

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ChicagoEd wrote:
Now is retooling the same as reloading or does it occur after a transition year?


I'll have to ask Scooter if your high school teachers seemed frustrated
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