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Here's a piece on Mike Riberio that Baffoo mentioned in his column: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/6/19 ... llegations

After reading the details of that case it would appear impossible to prosecute as there really isn't any physical evidence.

When then are we as fans to make of a story like the Riberio case? Is the nanny lying or embellishing what happened, or is she telling the truth? Should everyone just shut their mouths until all the facts come out, even knowing full well that that may never happen?



Why would you or Baffoe conflate Ribeiro and Kane? These are two separate cases with separate facts. Leading a charge against "rape culture" ceases to be admirable when the people leading said charge are indifferent to ruining the life of an innocent person because his innocence fails to further their political agenda. You believe the nanny in the Ribeiro case. Great. Do you also believe the witnesses in the Kane case that caused the DA to pretty much scoff at the allegations?

Patrick Kane is a person. He isn't some abstract concept or representation of "rape culture". People like Baffoe don't care about that. It's why I hope they one day find themselves in a similar situation.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Here's a piece on Mike Riberio that Baffoo mentioned in his column: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/6/19 ... llegations

After reading the details of that case it would appear impossible to prosecute as there really isn't any physical evidence.

When then are we as fans to make of a story like the Riberio case? Is the nanny lying or embellishing what happened, or is she telling the truth? Should everyone just shut their mouths until all the facts come out, even knowing full well that that may never happen?



Why would you or Baffoe conflate Ribeiro and Kane? These are two separate cases with separate facts. Leading a charge against "rape culture" ceases to be admirable when the people leading said charge are indifferent to ruining the life of an innocent person because his innocence fails to further their political agenda. You believe the nanny in the Ribeiro case. Great. Do you also believe the witnesses in the Kane case that caused the DA to pretty much scoff at the allegations?

Patrick Kane is a person. He isn't some abstract concept or representation of "rape culture". People like Baffoe don't care about that. It's why I hope they one day find themselves in a similar situation.


https://twitter.com/TimBaffoe/status/662334925912211456


See, it just gets back to privilege and teaching those who have it a lesson. Whatever, I love that this guy teaches kids how to critically think...

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Here's a piece on Mike Riberio that Baffoo mentioned in his column: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/6/19 ... llegations

After reading the details of that case it would appear impossible to prosecute as there really isn't any physical evidence.

When then are we as fans to make of a story like the Riberio case? Is the nanny lying or embellishing what happened, or is she telling the truth? Should everyone just shut their mouths until all the facts come out, even knowing full well that that may never happen?



Why would you or Baffoe conflate Ribeiro and Kane? These are two separate cases with separate facts. Leading a charge against "rape culture" ceases to be admirable when the people leading said charge are indifferent to ruining the life of an innocent person because his innocence fails to further their political agenda. You believe the nanny in the Ribeiro case. Great. Do you also believe the witnesses in the Kane case that caused the DA to pretty much scoff at the allegations?

Patrick Kane is a person. He isn't some abstract concept or representation of "rape culture". People like Baffoe don't care about that. It's why I hope they one day find themselves in a similar situation.


I'm not trying to conflate the Riberio and Kane cases. Nor do I believe (or disbelieve) the nanny in the Riberio case. I'm trying to figure out how sports fans are to approach cases like Riberio's and Kane's and Greg Hardy's, etc. I don't think sticking your head in the sand and crying out "stick to sports", or flinging shit on twitter about the alleged suspect(s) or victim(s) is the answer.

This is not a new or groundbreaking argument that I'm about to make, but I seriously doubt that anyone outside of Patrick Kane's immediate family cared that he could have went to jail over this. The real concern was that Patrick Kane, the three time Stanley Cup champion, could have went to jail.

But I'm probably just a white-knight-SJW-faggot so what do I know.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Here's a piece on Mike Riberio that Baffoo mentioned in his column: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/6/19 ... llegations

After reading the details of that case it would appear impossible to prosecute as there really isn't any physical evidence.

When then are we as fans to make of a story like the Riberio case? Is the nanny lying or embellishing what happened, or is she telling the truth? Should everyone just shut their mouths until all the facts come out, even knowing full well that that may never happen?



Why would you or Baffoe conflate Ribeiro and Kane? These are two separate cases with separate facts. Leading a charge against "rape culture" ceases to be admirable when the people leading said charge are indifferent to ruining the life of an innocent person because his innocence fails to further their political agenda. You believe the nanny in the Ribeiro case. Great. Do you also believe the witnesses in the Kane case that caused the DA to pretty much scoff at the allegations?

Patrick Kane is a person. He isn't some abstract concept or representation of "rape culture". People like Baffoe don't care about that. It's why I hope they one day find themselves in a similar situation.


I'm not trying to conflate the Riberio and Kane cases. Nor do I believe (or disbelieve) the nanny in the Riberio case. I'm trying to figure out how sports fans are to approach cases like Riberio's and Kane's and Greg Hardy's, etc. I don't think sticking your head in the sand and crying out "stick to sports", or flinging shit on twitter about the alleged suspect(s) or victim(s) is the answer.

This is not a new or groundbreaking argument that I'm about to make, but I seriously doubt that anyone outside of Patrick Kane's immediate family cared that he could have went to jail over this. The real concern was that Patrick Kane, the three time Stanley Cup champion, could have went to jail.

But I'm probably just a white-knight-SJW-faggot so what do I know.

Probably not much more than the #rapeculture propagating KANER fanboys that you just basically called everyone outside his immediate family do

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Here's a piece on Mike Riberio that Baffoo mentioned in his column: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/6/19 ... llegations

After reading the details of that case it would appear impossible to prosecute as there really isn't any physical evidence.

When then are we as fans to make of a story like the Riberio case? Is the nanny lying or embellishing what happened, or is she telling the truth? Should everyone just shut their mouths until all the facts come out, even knowing full well that that may never happen?



Why would you or Baffoe conflate Ribeiro and Kane? These are two separate cases with separate facts. Leading a charge against "rape culture" ceases to be admirable when the people leading said charge are indifferent to ruining the life of an innocent person because his innocence fails to further their political agenda. You believe the nanny in the Ribeiro case. Great. Do you also believe the witnesses in the Kane case that caused the DA to pretty much scoff at the allegations?

Patrick Kane is a person. He isn't some abstract concept or representation of "rape culture". People like Baffoe don't care about that. It's why I hope they one day find themselves in a similar situation.


I'm not trying to conflate the Riberio and Kane cases. Nor do I believe (or disbelieve) the nanny in the Riberio case. I'm trying to figure out how sports fans are to approach cases like Riberio's and Kane's and Greg Hardy's, etc. I don't think sticking your head in the sand and crying out "stick to sports", or flinging shit on twitter about the alleged suspect(s) or victim(s) is the answer.

This is not a new or groundbreaking argument that I'm about to make, but I seriously doubt that anyone outside of Patrick Kane's immediate family cared that he could have went to jail over this. The real concern was that Patrick Kane, the three time Stanley Cup champion, could have went to jail.

But I'm probably just a white-knight-SJW-faggot so what do I know.

Probably not much more than the #rapeculture propagating KANER fanboys that you just basically called everyone outside his immediate family do


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https://twitter.com/TimBaffoe/status/662334925912211456


See, it just gets back to privilege and teaching those who have it a lesson. Whatever, I love that this guy teaches kids how to critically think...


Christ, that article by Baffoe is embarrassing. A brief acknowledgement that he may have been wrong and then paragraph after paragraph about how he's sorry that everyone but him is a horrible person who supports rape. :roll: :roll:


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yeah, i'm sorry, sorry i'm so awesome. Does he teach high school or attend it?

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Then theres this gut busting hilarity


Rape Apologists
A public list by Ramblin Grimace
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A collection of tweeps who blame victims and help perpetuate myths about sexual assault.



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SpiralStairs wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Here's a piece on Mike Riberio that Baffoo mentioned in his column: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/6/19 ... llegations

After reading the details of that case it would appear impossible to prosecute as there really isn't any physical evidence.

When then are we as fans to make of a story like the Riberio case? Is the nanny lying or embellishing what happened, or is she telling the truth? Should everyone just shut their mouths until all the facts come out, even knowing full well that that may never happen?



Why would you or Baffoe conflate Ribeiro and Kane? These are two separate cases with separate facts. Leading a charge against "rape culture" ceases to be admirable when the people leading said charge are indifferent to ruining the life of an innocent person because his innocence fails to further their political agenda. You believe the nanny in the Ribeiro case. Great. Do you also believe the witnesses in the Kane case that caused the DA to pretty much scoff at the allegations?

Patrick Kane is a person. He isn't some abstract concept or representation of "rape culture". People like Baffoe don't care about that. It's why I hope they one day find themselves in a similar situation.


I'm not trying to conflate the Riberio and Kane cases. Nor do I believe (or disbelieve) the nanny in the Riberio case. I'm trying to figure out how sports fans are to approach cases like Riberio's and Kane's and Greg Hardy's, etc. I don't think sticking your head in the sand and crying out "stick to sports", or flinging shit on twitter about the alleged suspect(s) or victim(s) is the answer.

This is not a new or groundbreaking argument that I'm about to make, but I seriously doubt that anyone outside of Patrick Kane's immediate family cared that he could have went to jail over this. The real concern was that Patrick Kane, the three time Stanley Cup champion, could have went to jail.

But I'm probably just a white-knight-SJW-faggot so what do I know.


Well, I don't care if Kane ever plays another hockey game. If the NHL suspended operations I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep. But Kane is a person and it's now clear he was accused by a liar. The continued attacks and the aspersions being cast upon him in the pursuit of some larger political goal are simply unconscionable and show a lack of humanity in those pursuing it.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Here's a piece on Mike Riberio that Baffoo mentioned in his column: http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/6/19 ... llegations

After reading the details of that case it would appear impossible to prosecute as there really isn't any physical evidence.

When then are we as fans to make of a story like the Riberio case? Is the nanny lying or embellishing what happened, or is she telling the truth? Should everyone just shut their mouths until all the facts come out, even knowing full well that that may never happen?



Why would you or Baffoe conflate Ribeiro and Kane? These are two separate cases with separate facts. Leading a charge against "rape culture" ceases to be admirable when the people leading said charge are indifferent to ruining the life of an innocent person because his innocence fails to further their political agenda. You believe the nanny in the Ribeiro case. Great. Do you also believe the witnesses in the Kane case that caused the DA to pretty much scoff at the allegations?

Patrick Kane is a person. He isn't some abstract concept or representation of "rape culture". People like Baffoe don't care about that. It's why I hope they one day find themselves in a similar situation.


I'm not trying to conflate the Riberio and Kane cases. Nor do I believe (or disbelieve) the nanny in the Riberio case. I'm trying to figure out how sports fans are to approach cases like Riberio's and Kane's and Greg Hardy's, etc. I don't think sticking your head in the sand and crying out "stick to sports", or flinging shit on twitter about the alleged suspect(s) or victim(s) is the answer.

This is not a new or groundbreaking argument that I'm about to make, but I seriously doubt that anyone outside of Patrick Kane's immediate family cared that he could have went to jail over this. The real concern was that Patrick Kane, the three time Stanley Cup champion, could have went to jail.

But I'm probably just a white-knight-SJW-faggot so what do I know.


Well, I don't care if Kane ever plays another hockey game. If the NHL suspended operations I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep. But Kane is a person and it's now clear he was accused by a liar. The continued attacks and the aspersions being cast upon him in the pursuit of some larger political goal are simply unconscionable and show a lack of humanity in those pursuing it.


I think this is yet another case of the loudest voices drowning out the more reasonable views. I don't like the people who are going to continually cast aspersions on Kane because "we'll never really know what happened", but I also don't like the people whose first thought when the story broke was that the accuser was a lying cooze. Both sides exist and both sides were/are equally vocal.

After all this I'd like to believe that everyone is going to have a more measured response when it comes to rape and abuse allegations leveled against a famous athlete or celebrity, but I'm not holding my breath.

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I think this is yet another case of the loudest voices drowning out the more reasonable views. I don't like the people who are going to continually cast aspersions on Kane because "we'll never really know what happened", but I also don't like the people whose first thought when the story broke was that the accuser was a lying cooze. Both sides exist and both sides were/are equally vocal.


True. A friend of mine plays in a mean's hockey league and he told me the prevailing "wisdom" among the goofs in the league was [cue meatball voice] "She hadit comin'!" I think- I hope- most of us find such a stance reprehensible.

The thing is, this idea that we have to "teach boys not to rape" is really absurd. I think the vast majority of us know not to rape. And if a scumbag is a rapist, how the hell are you supposed to "teach" him not to be? So it's really just a political stance rather than any practical solution to a problem. And there's a vocal faction that has no problem using an innocent man as a sacrificial lamb to further a movement. Some of them even admit such a philosophy.

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Hayley Pandolfi ‏@Hayley_Pandolfi 16m16 minutes ago
@RamblinGrimace Thanks for standing up for me Purple man. I'll buy a new evidence bag for you when I go shopping with mother.


:lol: That account is off to a roaring start.

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Hayley Pandolfi ‏@Hayley_Pandolfi 16m16 minutes ago
@RamblinGrimace Thanks for standing up for me Purple man. I'll buy a new evidence bag for you when I go shopping with mother.


:lol: That account is off to a roaring start.


Just saying, another terrible idea by someone.

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The thing is, this idea that we have to "teach boys not to rape" is really absurd. I think the vast majority of us know not to rape. And if a scumbag is a rapist, how the hell are you supposed to "teach" him not to be?


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That account is a horrible idea. People suck.

I put them in the same category as people who would've rather have seen someone be raped so they could be right

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That account is a horrible idea. People suck.


Unfortunately, it's humanizing Bernstein and Goff's "people on Twitter" straw man.

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That account is a horrible idea. People suck.


Unfortunately, it's humanizing Bernstein and Goff's "people on Twitter" straw man.

It's funny they don't seem to demonize the blood lust SJWs who want to send an innocent man to prison the same way .

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That account is a horrible idea. People suck.


Unfortunately, it's humanizing Bernstein and Goff's "people on Twitter" straw man.

It's funny they don't seem to demonize the blood lust SJWs who want to send an innocent man to prison the same way .
You are the real victim in this whole thing.

How are you able to go on with your life with these SJWs?

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More of a victim than Hayley Pandolfi ever was , that much is true.

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The thing is, this idea that we have to "teach boys not to rape" is really absurd. I think the vast majority of us know not to rape. And if a scumbag is a rapist, how the hell are you supposed to "teach" him not to be? So it's really just a political stance rather than any practical solution to a problem. And there's a vocal faction that has no problem using an innocent man as a sacrificial lamb to further a movement. Some of them even admit such a philosophy.


In this day, you better teach your boy not to rape because that definition has widened to the point of absurdity.

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The thing is, this idea that we have to "teach boys not to rape" is really absurd. I think the vast majority of us know not to rape. And if a scumbag is a rapist, how the hell are you supposed to "teach" him not to be? So it's really just a political stance rather than any practical solution to a problem. And there's a vocal faction that has no problem using an innocent man as a sacrificial lamb to further a movement. Some of them even admit such a philosophy.


In this day, you better teach your boy not to rape because that definition has widened to the point of absurdity.


I just read an article in New York magazine about sex on campus. The students they interviewed couldn't agree on what rape was or what "hooking up" meant. They all had their own ideas and definitions. Talk about a breakdown in communication! I'm glad I'm an old man who has a wife with whom I can just Netflix and chill.

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Be great if it was Julie DiCaro.

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More evidence that Ramblin Grimmace is Baffoe. Use of word "Adorbs".

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More evidence that Ramblin Grimmace is Baffoe. Use of word "Adorbs".

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who's the guy here who used to print triplicate forms? he could do sex certification forms and make a killing. boxes for his/her oral, anal, cum in mouth etc.

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