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The Brewers hired Derek Jonson (HE'S DAVID PRICE'S FORMER PITCHING COACH AT VANDERBILT!!!!!!!!!) to be their pitching coach. David Price signing with the Brewers is imminent.


Where have you been since Oct. 24th:

Brewers will hire Derek Johnson as pitching coach
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel-Oct 23, 2015

but thanks for the deep insight ..I am sure his 3 years with Vandy are worth way more than his 6 years with Maddon and the Rays.

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Better to catch and weed roid abusers out early then allow them to graduate to the majors and become the face of the franchise like Thomas and Konerko.


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Better to catch and weed roid abusers out early then allow them to graduate to the majors and become the face of the franchise like Thomas and Konerko.


You'd be cool with Putin as a face of the Franchise if you got to experience the euphoria of 2005.

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The Cubs need a real leadoff hitter - they really lacked run producing and relied too much on the long ball. They need someone at the top to get on base and find ways to score. That is likely where they will focus on getting a CF to fill that role.

Greinke is now available - who do you want out of Price, Greinke, Zimmerman? Pick one.


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It's a down market for CF/leadoff hitters. Denard Span is really the only guy who fits the bill and he's coming off an injury plagued year that included season ending hip surgery so it will be interesting to see if the Nats offer him a QO and if he accepts or rejects it. I could see them making another short term Dexter Fowler-like trade to give Almora another year to prove if he's the long term guy.

I think they're going to be out on Grienke and Price. I think Zimmerman and Leake are the guys they will target. I also think they'll sign a lower tiered starter like JA Happ or Justin Masterson.


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It will be interesting to see if the Cubs pursue anyone that will have draft pick compensation attached to them.

The pick they would give up will be a lower 1st round pick. Plus, they will get a pick in return for Fowler. So they may not mind losing it.


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By Steve Adams | November 6, 2015 at 8:20am CST

The free-agent signing period has yet to even officially kick off — that will happen after midnight ET tonight, when the five-day, exclusive negotiation window between free agents and their current teams expires — but there are already plenty of rumblings connecting David Price to the Cubs. Earlier in the week, ESPN’s Buster Olney wrote (Insider subscription required) that “some rival evaluators consider the Cubs to be the heavy, heavy favorites” to land Price. And, earlier today, FOX’s Ken Rosenthal noted that he spoke to a pair of agents that represent some of Price’s competitors on this year’s free agent market, both of whom expect him to land with the Cubs. Rosenthal also spoke to an exec who knows Price and believes the Cubs to be the lefty’s top choice. All of this, of course, is highly preliminary in nature. It’s difficult to peg the Cubs as any kind of favorite when the team cannot yet negotiate with his agent, Bo McKinnis, in earnest and when the rest of the league hasn’t been granted a chance to persuade Price, either.


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By Steve Adams | November 6, 2015 at 8:20am CST

The free-agent signing period has yet to even officially kick off — that will happen after midnight ET tonight, when the five-day, exclusive negotiation window between free agents and their current teams expires — but there are already plenty of rumblings connecting David Price to the Cubs. Earlier in the week, ESPN’s Buster Olney wrote (Insider subscription required) that “some rival evaluators consider the Cubs to be the heavy, heavy favorites” to land Price. And, earlier today, FOX’s Ken Rosenthal noted that he spoke to a pair of agents that represent some of Price’s competitors on this year’s free agent market, both of whom expect him to land with the Cubs. Rosenthal also spoke to an exec who knows Price and believes the Cubs to be the lefty’s top choice. All of this, of course, is highly preliminary in nature. It’s difficult to peg the Cubs as any kind of favorite when the team cannot yet negotiate with his agent, Bo McKinnis, in earnest and when the rest of the league hasn’t been granted a chance to persuade Price, either.


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Just like they didn't talk to Maddon. :roll:

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Alex Gordon should be a priority, Royals can't afford him.

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Alex Gordon should be a priority, Royals can't afford him.


I don't know if he can play CF. I think they may be looking at Span.


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I think he'd be great in CF... If not Bryant can get the job done. I'd like to poach somebody from that squad.. Cueto, Gordon or Zobrist.

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Left-hander Tsuyoshi Wada will return to Japan’s top league, Nippon Professional Baseball, to sign a multi-year contract with his former club, the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks, according to a report from Sports Hochi (Japanese link). The 34-year-old Wada, a client of Octagon, has a basic agreement in place, per the report, and a formal announcement will be made in the near future.

Wada first jumped from Japan to the Major Leagues prior to the 2012 season when he signed a two-year, $8.15MM contract with the Orioles. However, he’d never take the mound for Baltimore, as he underwent Tommy John surgery on his left elbow in early May of that 2012 season. Wada would go on to land a minor league deal with the Cubs for the 2014 season and ink a one-year, $4MM pact with the team one year ago tomorrow.

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OK, so the Cubs' season ended with a loss -- four in a row, as a matter of fact. But the trip to the National League Championship Series was a thrill ride that included the franchise's biggest season-to-season improvement since 1984, plus postseason victories over the Pirates and Cardinals.

It was a season to be savored, one that will be difficult to top. But that has become the job at hand for Theo Epstein, who said that 2015 was like a beautiful baseball dream.
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He wanted a challenge when he came to Chicago, and it's still there. It's not going to be easy to improve on a 97-win finish, but now he has to emulate the Royals and follow one magical season with another.
The least we can do is offer a few suggestions, so here are five moves for the Cubs to make this offseason:
1. Trade for a dominating starter who is under control for at least four seasons.
This is a short list that includes Corey Kluber (12.8 fWAR the past two seasons), Chris Sale (11.4), Jose Quintana (9.9), Chris Archer (8.5), Carlos Carrasco (8.0) and Sonny Gray (6.9).
This would be a more cost-efficient, lower-risk option than signing David Price for six or seven years at an average annual value of $30 million, assuming Max Scherzer is the appropriate comp. Price is a good fit in a lot of ways, but after last year's Jon Lester signing, Price would give the Cubs two 30-something pitchers signed for the next five seasons at a combined $55 million-plus per year.
That's a huge investment for two arms, and the Cubs have the prospect inventory to pull off a huge trade, so they should look that way first.
Both the White Sox and Indians have two starters on this list and are prioritizing hitters, which fits the Cubs' surplus. There's a deal to be made between these teams, if the Cubs will trade either Javier Baez or Jorge Soler and multiple players from a list including Billy McKinney, Albert Almora, Eloy Jimenez, Christian Villanueva, Willson Contreras, Jeimer Candelario and Dan Vogelbach.

2. Trade for Kevin Kiermaier.
Getting the best defensive center fielder in the game won't be easy, but this guy's a perfect fit for Wrigley Field. He's not only from the Midwest, but he has a brother who works on the Wrigley Field grounds crew. He has played for Joe Maddon before. His range and instincts would leave less territory for Kyle Schwarber and Soler to cover on the corners. He won't be easy to get, but going after him is a no-brainer.

It doesn't help that the Rays are still steaming over Maddon's exit. But the Cubs can make it worth Tampa Bay's while to be open-minded. If Chicago can't, Epstein should move on to other options to replace departing free agent Dexter Fowler.
With Addison Russell available to take over the leadoff spot, defense is the priority. The list of guys who fit includes Jackie Bradley Jr., Kevin Pillar and maybe Leonys Martin (the most available guy on the list). There's talk about free agent Denard Span, but metrics show his fielding is slipping. Rajai Davis or re-signing Austin Jackson is a better bet on a one- or two-year contract.

3. Commit to catching Schwarber once a week.
Schwarber's maximum value comes if he can play regularly behind the plate, and he's made major strides there the past two years. The Cubs can keep Miguel Montero and David Ross and give Schwarber 20-30 starts at catcher next season, which will help evaluate the long-term fit. Montero probably won't be happy losing playing time, but the Cubs actually had a better winning percentage with their other starting catchers (.606) than in Montero's 91 starts (.593).

4. Sign 35-year-old free agent lefty Rich Hill or one of the more conventional second-tier free agent starters like John Lackey or Jeff Samardzija.
Hill, who started his career with the Cubs in the Dusty Baker era, made four starts with the Red Sox in September -- his first in the big leagues since 2009 -- and he was brilliant. Hill had a 1.55 ERA over 29 innings, allowing only 14 hits while striking out 36. You could see why the Cubs tried to trade for him in August, when he was still with Triple-A Pawtucket.

An advantage in signing Hill is he will probably wind up with a short, incentive-heavy deal compared to a three- or four-year commitment for Lackey or Samardzija. Nothing says the Cubs can't sign Hill and Lackey/Samardzija, either. They are committed to being at least seven starters deep when they go to Spring Training next year, although Epstein does speak positively about Kyle Hendricks and Jason Hammel, his third and fourth starters at present.

5. Extend Jake Arrieta.
The Cubs only control the 22-game winner for two more years before free agency. He earned $3.63 million last year and is projected to be in line for an increase to $10.6 million, according to the mlbtraderumors.com arbitration estimates.
While Arrieta has never been an All-Star, his breakout performance was really a continuation of his work in 2014. Only three starters (Clayton Kershaw, Kluber and Price) have produced more fWAR than Arrieta the past two years. The Cubs should trust those numbers and offer him something like $80 million for four years rather than leaving him on course for free agency after 2017, heading into his age-32 season.

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fiction writer: ain't nobody starting trade talks for a guy like Sale or Kluber with Baez or Soler.

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fiction writer: ain't nobody starting trade talks for a guy like Sale or Kluber with Baez or Soler.


Not one of them alone. But package either with a good prospect (Not Glyber though) or 2 or maybe package Baez with Soler and if the other team is in a rebuilding mode, it might make sense to them. Sox are going nowhere anytime soon and should have been in rebuilding mode a year ago, rather than wasting money on guys like LaRoche, Robertson and Cabrerra.

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fiction writer: ain't nobody starting trade talks for a guy like Sale or Kluber with Baez or Soler.


Not one of them alone. But package either with a good prospect (Not Glyber though) or 2 or maybe package Baez with Soler and if the other team is in a rebuilding mode, it might make sense to them. Sox are going nowhere anytime soon and should have been in rebuilding mode a year ago, rather than wasting money on guys like LaRoche, Robertson and Cabrerra.


I don't think anyone, not even KW, would think Baez/Soler is a good center piece of a trade for a #1, young, cost controlled starter. You up the ante of insanity by keeping Torres out of the consideration.

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1) You're not getting Sale. Period.
2) Quintana is very good, but not dominant.
3) Sign Smardjia....go ahead...be my guest.

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Epstein is being careful to dampen expectations for free agent pickups. Not getting Greinke or Price if anyone with deep pockets gets in the race.

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I think Kluber, Carrasco, and maybe Quintana could be had, but not for a "package" of junk you don't think is good enough to wear a Cub uniform.

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Let me ask this. You have Torres coming. You have Baez and/or Castro who can play short until he's ready. Would you trade Russell for Quintana straight up? I'm sure most Cubs fans can't say no quick enough. But that's a fair deal that works for both teams.

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Let me ask this. You have Torres coming. You have Baez and/or Castro who can play short until he's ready. Would you trade Russell for Quintana straight up? I'm sure most Cubs fans can't say no quick enough. But that's a fair deal that works for both teams.


I would consider Russell but probably would not trade him for Q.

So let me ask you.
You have Sale and Rodon with Fullmer coming.
So would you take Castro for Quintana?
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Let me ask this. You have Torres coming. You have Baez and/or Castro who can play short until he's ready. Would you trade Russell for Quintana straight up? I'm sure most Cubs fans can't say no quick enough. But that's a fair deal that works for both teams.


I would consider Russell but probably would not trade him for Q.

So let me ask you.
You have Sale and Rodon with Fullmer coming.
So would you take Castro for Quintana?
How about Baez?


Yes, but there would have to be more to the deal than that. Wilson Contreras and Castro for Quintana- done.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Let me ask this. You have Torres coming. You have Baez and/or Castro who can play short until he's ready. Would you trade Russell for Quintana straight up? I'm sure most Cubs fans can't say no quick enough. But that's a fair deal that works for both teams.


I would consider Russell but probably would not trade him for Q.

So let me ask you.
You have Sale and Rodon with Fullmer coming.
So would you take Castro for Quintana?
How about Baez?


Why would the White Sox trade Quintana, a #2 or, at worst, a #3 starter (in some higher end rotations) for a guy (Castro) who may not have a position and who struggled for a good majority of the season. Both have long-term deals, but Quintana's deal is considered to be a steal in the industry while Castro's is not. The only way the White Sox move Quintana is for 2 top prospects. That's a high price, but this is a well established pitcher. You don't trade him for struggling hitters.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Let me ask this. You have Torres coming. You have Baez and/or Castro who can play short until he's ready. Would you trade Russell for Quintana straight up? I'm sure most Cubs fans can't say no quick enough. But that's a fair deal that works for both teams.


I would consider Russell but probably would not trade him for Q.

So let me ask you.
You have Sale and Rodon with Fullmer coming.
So would you take Castro for Quintana?
How about Baez?


Why would the White Sox trade Quintana, a #2 or, at worst, a #3 starter (in some higher end rotations) for a guy (Castro) who may not have a position and who struggled for a good majority of the season. Both have long-term deals, but Quintana's deal is considered to be a steal in the industry while Castro's is not. The only way the White Sox move Quintana is for 2 top prospects. That's a high price, but this is a well established pitcher. You don't trade him for struggling hitters.


Well, maybe I think more of Castro than the average person. I'm not sure what baseball insiders think. But from the Sox standpoint it gives them a middle infielder with some offensive ability. I don't really consider him a "struggling hitter". Last year was not his best, but he finished well and I have my doubts that Russell or Torres will ever be a better offensive player than Castro has already been. Plus he's under control at a reasonable price. Also, he showed maturity that a lot of people didn't think he had when he lost the SS job last season. As I said, there would have to be more to a deal than just Castro though.

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Let me ask this. You have Torres coming. You have Baez and/or Castro who can play short until he's ready. Would you trade Russell for Quintana straight up? I'm sure most Cubs fans can't say no quick enough. But that's a fair deal that works for both teams.


I would consider Russell but probably would not trade him for Q.

So let me ask you.
You have Sale and Rodon with Fullmer coming.
So would you take Castro for Quintana?
How about Baez?


Why would the White Sox trade Quintana, a #2 or, at worst, a #3 starter (in some higher end rotations) for a guy (Castro) who may not have a position and who struggled for a good majority of the season. Both have long-term deals, but Quintana's deal is considered to be a steal in the industry while Castro's is not. The only way the White Sox move Quintana is for 2 top prospects. That's a high price, but this is a well established pitcher. You don't trade him for struggling hitters.


Well, maybe I think more of Castro than the average person. I'm not sure what baseball insiders think. But from the Sox standpoint it gives them a middle infielder with some offensive ability. I don't really consider him a "struggling hitter". Last year was not his best, but he finished well and I have my doubts that Russell or Torres will ever be a better offensive player than Castro has already been. Plus he's under control at a reasonable price. Also, he showed maturity that a lot of people didn't think he had when he lost the SS job last season. As I said, there would have to be more to a deal than just Castro though.


It doesn't sound like he's going to get moved. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not earth-shattering by any means, but I'm told the Cubs are getting ready to make another big push to move Starlin Castro this off-season.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Let me ask this. You have Torres coming. You have Baez and/or Castro who can play short until he's ready. Would you trade Russell for Quintana straight up? I'm sure most Cubs fans can't say no quick enough. But that's a fair deal that works for both teams.


I would consider Russell but probably would not trade him for Q.

So let me ask you.
You have Sale and Rodon with Fullmer coming.
So would you take Castro for Quintana?
How about Baez?


Why would the White Sox trade Quintana, a #2 or, at worst, a #3 starter (in some higher end rotations) for a guy (Castro) who may not have a position and who struggled for a good majority of the season. Both have long-term deals, but Quintana's deal is considered to be a steal in the industry while Castro's is not. The only way the White Sox move Quintana is for 2 top prospects. That's a high price, but this is a well established pitcher. You don't trade him for struggling hitters.


Well, maybe I think more of Castro than the average person. I'm not sure what baseball insiders think. But from the Sox standpoint it gives them a middle infielder with some offensive ability. I don't really consider him a "struggling hitter". Last year was not his best, but he finished well and I have my doubts that Russell or Torres will ever be a better offensive player than Castro has already been. Plus he's under control at a reasonable price. Also, he showed maturity that a lot of people didn't think he had when he lost the SS job last season. As I said, there would have to be more to a deal than just Castro though.


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This is from ESPN Doug Padilla: White Sox's 10 things to watch for

(http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-s ... -watch-for)

2. Will the White Sox gamble on a Quintana trade? It’s not that the White Sox would want to trade left-hander Jose Quintana, but he could provide the best return in a deal. Outside of Sale and Jose Abreu -- who are not going anywhere -- Quintana is the player who could help the White Sox get that right-handed No. 2 starter they desire, and perhaps a prospect for the future could be had as well. The White Sox are loaded with top-of-the-rotation lefties in Sale and Carlos Rodon, which makes this move a possibility.

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