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 Post subject: Spike Lee!
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complaining that people in Chicago are judging his film CHIRAQ based on a 2:30 trailer!!!!!!!

You mean the same Trailer that You made to get people to JUDGE whether or not they want to see the film?????

The point of the trailer is to show people what you have and then they determine if they want to see it.....oh, and PAY to see it or not

Conisdering Spike is just doing this to help and have the discussion, then I assume the film will be FREE to see????

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 Post subject: Re: Spike Lee!
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I don't get what Chicago people are bitching about. Murders are committed on the South side. You get shot there. More so than in any other city. He's making a movie about those murders. So what?

He's trying to make money. That's the purpose of making movies. Will it send a message? Will it make a difference? No. But that's what Spike Lee has to say to sell his movie.

CNN did a doc on it. I watched it. Then the next day somebody was shot dead. Then 3 days later somebody else was shot dead. Then the next week a kid was shot dead. So that Doc didn't help.

Spike Lee movie or not, the murders will continue.

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You're talking about the film. Spike Lee wins! 8)

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It blows my mind that he was Mars Blackmon.


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If you don't see it you are a racist

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I don't get what Chicago people are bitching about. Murders are committed on the South side. You get shot there. More so than in any other city. He's making a movie about those murders. So what?

He's trying to make money. That's the purpose of making movies. Will it send a message? Will it make a difference? No. But that's what Spike Lee has to say to sell his movie.

CNN did a doc on it. I watched it. Then the next day somebody was shot dead. Then 3 days later somebody else was shot dead. Then the next week a kid was shot dead. So that Doc didn't help.

Spike Lee movie or not, the murders will continue.

Dan Bernstein: WHY. DON'T. THEY. JUST. MOVE?

Spike Lee: Right on, brother!!!! That's the answer.


It has NOTHING to do with the murders that are at historic lows.

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It has NOTHING to do with the murders that are at historic lows.


Only because Rahm has figured out how to classify many murders as something other than what they actually are.

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Nas wrote:
It has NOTHING to do with the murders that are at historic lows.


Only because Rahm has figured out how to classify many murders as something other than what they actually are.

Also drug buys disguised as high school counselor phone calls.

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It has NOTHING to do with the murders that are at historic lows.


Only because Rahm has figured out how to classify many murders as something other than what they actually are.


Even before Rahm they were trending down. Down about 500 from when I was a kid.

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I did read where a bunch of cops were suspended for "improperly" accessing the police report about Rahms pothead sons "mugging".

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emergency medical care is way better than it was 20-30 years ago too.

Bro, cool story dept.: Ran into a firefighter at a park in Oak Park. He was excercising the firehouse rotweiler there since it was too dangerous in the city. said three guys came into the firehouse yesterday with gunshot wounds.

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emergency medical care is way better than it was 20-30 years ago too.

Bro, cool story dept.: Ran into a firefighter at a park in Oak Park. He was excercising the firehouse rotweiler there since it was too dangerous in the city. said three guys came into the firehouse yesterday with gunshot wounds.


In the 90's it was better than it was in the 60's. That didn't stop the dramatic increase from the 60's to the 90's.

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well, I guess this murder business is solving itself. no worries.

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Nas wrote:
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emergency medical care is way better than it was 20-30 years ago too.

Bro, cool story dept.: Ran into a firefighter at a park in Oak Park. He was excercising the firehouse rotweiler there since it was too dangerous in the city. said three guys came into the firehouse yesterday with gunshot wounds.


In the 90's it was better than it was in the 60's. That didn't stop the dramatic increase from the 60's to the 90's.



Channel 2 News addressed this issue last summer. Violent crime across the board has decreased during the past 25 yrs. Even accounting for advances in medicine there is a significant decrease. They reported a 75% decrease in violent crime.

The major advancement has occurred in the area of mass media. There are far more sources of information these days. This contributes greatly to the perception that crime is at an epidemic level.

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well, I guess this murder business is solving itself. no worries.


That's a great way to go when you are wrong.

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well, I guess this murder business is solving itself. no worries.


That's a great way to go when you are wrong.


what am I wrong about?

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Hatchetman wrote:
emergency medical care is way better than it was 20-30 years ago too.

Bro, cool story dept.: Ran into a firefighter at a park in Oak Park. He was excercising the firehouse rotweiler there since it was too dangerous in the city. said three guys came into the firehouse yesterday with gunshot wounds.


In the 90's it was better than it was in the 60's. That didn't stop the dramatic increase from the 60's to the 90's.



Channel 2 News addressed this issue last summer. Violent crime across the board has decreased during the past 25 yrs. Even accounting for advances in medicine there is a significant decrease. They reported a 75% decrease in violent crime.

The major advancement has occurred in the area of mass media. There are far more sources of information these days. This contributes greatly to the perception that crime is at an epidemic level.



Could not agree more.

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I find it ironic the #1 enemy of the police on this board totally believes their self-reported crime statistics.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magaz ... ime-stats/

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Hatchetman wrote:
well, I guess this murder business is solving itself. no worries.


That's a great way to go when you are wrong.


what am I wrong about?


Advancements in medicine being responsible for nearly 500 fewer murders annually since a peak in the 90's.

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Advancements in medicine being responsible for nearly 500 fewer murders annually since a peak in the 90's.


never remotely said that. could be 100? 150? I dunno. 5?

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I find it ironic the #1 enemy of the police on this board totally believes their self-reported crime statistics.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magaz ... ime-stats/


You're having a really bad morning. Hopefully the rest of your day gets better.

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You're having a really bad morning. Hopefully the rest of your day gets better.


That's a great way to go when you are wrong! :lol:

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Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?

That would eliminate the medical part


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Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?


Because we have no idea what the true numbers are.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?

That would eliminate the medical part



Channel 2 report factored that in also. 1990 there were 40,000 violent crimes committed. Number was reduced to 10,000 by 2013.

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Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?

That would eliminate the medical part


Violent crime is down dramatically since the 90's.

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Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?


Because we have no idea what the true numbers are.


I doubt violent crime is down that drastically. It's likely down because it's underreported.

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If the city is lying about the numbers today (despite all the independent organizations tracking these things) when there are only about 400 murders, why wouldn't they have been lying in the 90's when there was about 1000?

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Hatchetman wrote:
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Instead of murder, why dont we use number of gunshot (not necessarily murder) victims?


Because we have no idea what the true numbers are.


I doubt violent crime is down that drastically. It's likely down because it's underreported.
It's down nationwide though by a huge margin.

Looks like the War on Drugs was a success!

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If the city is lying about the numbers today (despite all the independent organizations tracking these things) when there are only about 400 murders, why wouldn't they have been lying in the 90's when there was about 1000?


How do you think that happened? Did people become less violent. Did reasons for violence disappear?

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