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 Post subject: Re: Spike Lee!
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You are all over the place Nas...

Yes- medical care got much better from 1960 - 1990 .. But The population grew as well...

How many shootings in 1990's as opposed to now..I bet the population is down from the 90's and shootings are up.

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I should have said one of the main reasons cited.....

lot of questions in this thread and not a lot of solid evidence of anything.


There are lots of stats. You don't believe the numbers because they don't fit your narrative. I don't have a concrete answer why they are down dramatically nationwide. My theory is the police are doing a great job. It could be the paint.



The only narrative I have is that I don't believe CPD statistics. Not sure why that gets you so hot and bothered....

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applying RICO laws to street gangs might be another reason.




Nah.. That just creates more chaos and turf wars.

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applying RICO laws to street gangs might be another reason.


Could be. I actually thought that was a bad idea because it removed order and created a lot of chaos in those communities. I was 13 when they basically eliminated the heads of the Gangster Disciples and it made things more dangerous for years.

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You are all over the place Nas...

Yes- medical care got much better from 1960 - 1990 .. But The population grew as well...

How many shootings in 1990's as opposed to now..I bet the population is down from the 90's and shootings are up.


They don't keep those numbers. Violent crime is down.

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This whole thread is like watching some schmuck row a boat in setting concrete.

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Hatchetman wrote:
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I should have said one of the main reasons cited.....

lot of questions in this thread and not a lot of solid evidence of anything.


There are lots of stats. You don't believe the numbers because they don't fit your narrative. I don't have a concrete answer why they are down dramatically nationwide. My theory is the police are doing a great job. It could be the paint.



The only narrative I have is that I don't believe CPD statistics. Not sure why that gets you so hot and bothered....


I don't disagree with you. My point has been they probably weren't accurate in the 90's either. Nationwide crime and murders are very low in comparison to where they were 25 years ago.

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This whole thread is like watching some schmuck row a boat in setting concrete.


We have this debate every year. Usually I start the thread

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I don't disagree with you. My point has been they probably weren't accurate in the 90's either. Nationwide crime and murders are very low in comparison to where they were 25 years ago.


I'm wondering though if crime is now increasing over the past few years. The few cops I've spoken to say it's gotten crazy out there. Maybe they are lying or clueless. I dunno. I'm just wondering what the hell is going on.

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I really do not know why the numbers are down as Nas points out. I do wonder though if one of the many reasons for that is better policing why are so many screaming for the CPD superintendent's head on a platter?

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Nas wrote:
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This whole thread is like watching some schmuck row a boat in setting concrete.


We have this debate every year. Usually I start the thread


I'll give you a nickel to finish it.

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I really do not know why the numbers are down as Nas points out. I do wonder though if one of the many reasons for that is better policing why are so many screaming for the CPD superintendent's head on a platter?


The media highlights every murder and shooting. It "feels" like it is worse. I believe violent crime and murders are actually up this year though by about 10% year over year. Bottom line is it is easier to blame someone else and the Superintendent is a major league asshole.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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Don Tiny wrote:
This whole thread is like watching some schmuck row a boat in setting concrete.


We have this debate every year. Usually I start the thread


I'll give you a nickel to finish it.


I can't

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I really do not know why the numbers are down as Nas points out. I do wonder though if one of the many reasons for that is better policing why are so many screaming for the CPD superintendent's head on a platter?


The media highlights every murder and shooting. It "feels" like it is worse. I believe violent crime and murders are actually up this year though by about 10% year over year. Bottom line is it is easier to blame someone else and the Superintendent is a major league asshole.



Thanks for explaining that for me.

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If the powers that be were smart they'd e drugging our food or water supply to pacify us.


Anything for the greater good of society.

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If the powers that be were smart they'd e drugging our food or water supply to pacify us.


Where's the profit in that?

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