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 Post subject: Maddon MOTY
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Bullshit. Should've been Matheny.

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Would Ricky Renteria would have won this year had he managed the Cubs?

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They might have won 105 games with Renteria . Who knows?

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Bullshit. Should've been Matheny.


It's hardly bullshit.

Matheny took a team with injuries to the playoffs.

Maddon took a team projected to be a handful of games over .500 to the NLCS, including past Matheny's squad.

Good candidates both, but a reflexive pronouncement of bullshit shows a complete disregard for reality.

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badrogue17 wrote:
Bullshit. Should've been Matheny.


It's hardly bullshit.

Matheny took a team with injuries to the playoffs.

Maddon took a team projected to be a handful of games over .500 to the NLCS, including past Matheny's squad.

Good candidates both, but a reflexive pronouncement of bullshit shows a complete disregard for reality.

Cubs don't even sniff the playoffs if they lose Arrietta for the year. Matheny won 102 games without his best pitcher . It's bullshit.

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badrogue17 wrote:
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badrogue17 wrote:
Bullshit. Should've been Matheny.


It's hardly bullshit.

Matheny took a team with injuries to the playoffs.

Maddon took a team projected to be a handful of games over .500 to the NLCS, including past Matheny's squad.

Good candidates both, but a reflexive pronouncement of bullshit shows a complete disregard for reality.

Cubs don't even sniff the playoffs if they lose Arrietta for the year. Matheny won 102 games without his best pitcher . It's bullshit.



So you're saying Arrieta (one 't') is the Cy Young Award winner?

Regardless, the BBWAA clearly disagree with your opinion.

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badrogue17 wrote:
They might have won 105 games with Renteria . Who knows?


Huh? They also might have won 162 with ikesouth. You could literally make your statement about any coach or any player in any sport.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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badrogue17 wrote:
Bullshit. Should've been Matheny.


It's hardly bullshit.

Matheny took a team with injuries to the playoffs.

Maddon took a team projected to be a handful of games over .500 to the NLCS, including past Matheny's squad.

Good candidates both, but a reflexive pronouncement of bullshit shows a complete disregard for reality.

Cubs don't even sniff the playoffs if they lose Arrietta for the year. Matheny won 102 games without his best pitcher . It's bullshit.



So you're saying Arrieta (one 't') is the Cy Young Award winner?

Regardless, the BBWAA clearly disagree with your opinion.

Arrieta is the Cy Young, yes.

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They might have won 105 games with Renteria . Who knows?


Huh? They also might have won 162 with ikesouth. You could literally make your statement about any coach or any player in any sport.

Exactly, hence the who knows? Wasn't exactly a soup question was it.

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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?

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badrogue17 wrote:
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They might have won 105 games with Renteria . Who knows?


Huh? They also might have won 162 with ikesouth. You could literally make your statement about any coach or any player in any sport.

Exactly, hence the who knows? Wasn't exactly a soup question was it.


I didn't see Darkside's original hypothetical because I have him blocked. Please quote him in the future.

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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?


You mean without winning the pennant?

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I would have given it to Collins, but Maddon n Matheny were all fine candidates.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?


2011 Bulls had MVP, Coach of the Year, and Exec of the Year

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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?

is Jake gonna win MVP and Cy Young or something?

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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?

is Jake gonna win MVP and Cy Young or something?


Rizzo!

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?

is Jake gonna win MVP and Cy Young or something?


Rizzo!


Schwarbs. That's why they held off on ROTY.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?

is Jake gonna win MVP and Cy Young or something?


Rizzo!

:lol: :lol:

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Maddon is clearly FAR SUPERIOR than Ventura.

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I would have given it to Collins, but Maddon n Matheny were all fine candidates.

Yes. Especially Maddon,who won. Rest of the group not so much.


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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?

is Jake gonna win MVP and Cy Young or something?


Either Dodger pitcher should have it ahead of Jake, particularly Kershaw.

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Sparky Anderson now is far superior to Ventura.

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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?


You mean without winning the pennant?


The answer is the same to both questions....

1983 Chicago White Sox 99-63 won the AL West division. Only to lose the AL pennant to Baltimore 3 games to 1


MOY:Tony La Russa
ROY:Ron Kittle
CY; LaMarr Hoyt

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And the MVP was?

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if my memory serves correct, Cal Ripken back when he had hair.

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Wow, why all the hate.... Why can't everyone appreciate the fact that he may have done a good job?


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if my memory serves correct, Cal Ripken back when he had hair.


correct

1. Cal Ripken Balt.
2. Eddie Murray Balt.
3. Carlton Fisk SOX

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Maddon is clearly FAR SUPERIOR than Ventura.


You are too

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Has a team ever had the Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP in the same season?


You mean without winning the pennant?

:D

I meant ever.

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