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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:38 am 
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to the AL than the Cubs?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:38 am 
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the Astros

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The Reds who became one of 4 fifth place teams instead of being the ONLY sixth place team.

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to the AL than the Cubs?


It does make historical events even less memorable.

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White Sox, because since Astros are the better team, even less people will be focused on the Sox inefficiencies.

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The entire NL.

Now they all have the chance to beat a crappy Astros team in a World Series, too.

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Not one of GD's better trolling attempts.


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Not one of GD's better trolling attempts.

I've read better troll threads from Beardown.

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Not one of GD's better trolling attempts.


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Not one of GD's better trolling attempts.

I've read better troll threads from Beardown.

No you have not.

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I did not like that the commissioner's office moved Houston to the American League. Milwaukee was fine because Milwaukee was an NL city to begin with and engaging Cubs fans along and over the border was good for business. Houston had no history in the American League, Dallas isn't even that close, and bringing the leagues to 15/15 made a complete hash of scheduling.

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spmack wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Not one of GD's better trolling attempts.

I've read better troll threads from Beardown.

No you have not.

You're right. :lol:

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I did not like that the commissioner's office moved Houston to the American League. Milwaukee was fine because Milwaukee was an NL city to begin with and engaging Cubs fans along and over the border was good for business. Houston had no history in the American League, Dallas isn't even that close, and bringing the leagues to 15/15 made a complete hash of scheduling.

I had no problem with it. I didn't see much of a fallout when it was announced. And with interleague schedules, you'll see them anyway still.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:08 pm 
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if Astros are in the NL:

no Cub ROY
no Cub Cy

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if Astros are in the NL:

no Cub ROY
no Cub Cy


I'll agree that Bryant wouldn't be a unanimous choice, but he might have still won. No way would Keuchel have beaten Arrieta.

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White Sox, because since Astros are the better team, even less people will be focused on the Sox inefficiencies.


Sox won 5 of 6 from the Astros in 2015.

Try again.

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White Sox, because since Astros are the better team, even less people will be focused on the Sox inefficiencies.


Sox won 5 of 6 from the Astros in 2015.

Try again.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
if Astros are in the NL:

no Cub ROY
no Cub Cy


I'll agree that Bryant wouldn't be a unanimous choice, but he might have still won. No way would Keuchel have beaten Arrieta.



Agreed

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
if Astros are in the NL:

no Cub ROY
no Cub Cy


I'll agree that Bryant wouldn't be a unanimous choice, but he might have still won. No way would Keuchel have beaten Arrieta.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/keuchda01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/arrieja01.shtml

Also, he would've also faced the Cubs, Cardinals, and Pirates rather than the Angels and Rangers ... good luck his numbers holding steady comparatively.

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Also, he would've also faced the Cubs, Cardinals, and Pirates rather than the Angels and Rangers ... good luck his numbers holding steady comparatively.
Yeah, it is definitely harder to pitch in the NL than the AL.

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good dolphin wrote:
if Astros are in the NL:

no Cub ROY
no Cub Cy




No, not even close

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Also, he would've also faced the Cubs, Cardinals, and Pirates rather than the Angels and Rangers ... good luck his numbers holding steady comparatively.
Yeah, it is definitely harder to pitch in the NL than the AL.


I thought for a second Don was agreeing with me.

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I see the Astros and Cubs as being very similar to this point, in terms of the way in which they built their teams through the draft and by trading pieces for prospects. However, I think it's likely the similarities are fewer in the future, as the Cubs will likely continue to add high priced free agents to try to complete their puzzle and I doubt the Astros will do much of that. That's not to say they can't compete at the highest level without adding high profile free agents. If they continue to draft and develop outstanding young players, they certainly can. But the Cubs can do that AND as time goes by with more and more revenue available to direct to payroll, become a team that fills whatever voids they may have to further improve their team.

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I see the Astros and Cubs as being very similar to this point, in terms of the way in which they built their teams through the draft and by trading pieces for prospects. However, I think it's likely the similarities are fewer in the future, as the Cubs will likely continue to add high priced free agents to try to complete their puzzle and I doubt the Astros will do much of that. That's not to say they can't compete at the highest level without adding high profile free agents. If they continue to draft and develop outstanding young players, they certainly can. But the Cubs can do that AND as time goes by with more and more revenue available to direct to payroll, become a team that fills whatever voids they may have to further improve their team.



The Astros don't need to overpay for 31 year old pitchers.

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Yep, you're right Steve. Except that the only void the Cubs will not fill is the void in their trophy case.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
I see the Astros and Cubs as being very similar to this point, in terms of the way in which they built their teams through the draft and by trading pieces for prospects. However, I think it's likely the similarities are fewer in the future, as the Cubs will likely continue to add high priced free agents to try to complete their puzzle and I doubt the Astros will do much of that. That's not to say they can't compete at the highest level without adding high profile free agents. If they continue to draft and develop outstanding young players, they certainly can. But the Cubs can do that AND as time goes by with more and more revenue available to direct to payroll, become a team that fills whatever voids they may have to further improve their team.



The Astros don't need to overpay for 31 year old pitchers.


I agree the Cubs overpaid for Lester. I said so when he was signed. I believe they will overpay for a guy (Price, Greinke or Zimmerman) this winter too. But they made the decision to draft outstanding position players and have built up an outstanding lineup that will only get better. Now, to complete the puzzle, they need to sign, and/or trade for the kind of pitchers that can win, not just in the regular season, but in the playoffs as well. Those guys tend to make big coin. But there is a window of 2 years before they risk losing Arrieta to free agency, so striking now to get another starting pitcher or two makes sense. They made an extra 27 million on the 9 playoff games they played, so that should help defray the cost.

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Yep, you're right Steve. Except that the only void the Cubs will not fill is the void in their trophy case.


Anyone with sense can see the lack of a championship since 1907 & 1908, is going to be rectified shortly. Find one of these people and have them explain it to you. Suggest they speak very slowly, as that may help you out.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Elmhurst Steve wrote:
I see the Astros and Cubs as being very similar to this point, in terms of the way in which they built their teams through the draft and by trading pieces for prospects. However, I think it's likely the similarities are fewer in the future, as the Cubs will likely continue to add high priced free agents to try to complete their puzzle and I doubt the Astros will do much of that. That's not to say they can't compete at the highest level without adding high profile free agents. If they continue to draft and develop outstanding young players, they certainly can. But the Cubs can do that AND as time goes by with more and more revenue available to direct to payroll, become a team that fills whatever voids they may have to further improve their team.



The Astros don't need to overpay for 31 year old pitchers.


Really? The Astros gave away one of their top 10 prospects and a young arm for 70 innings of Scott Kazmir, 31 years old by the way.

There is more than one way to overpay.


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