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2003 was a collapse, but not as tragic as many view.


Blow it out your ass. That was as tragic as it gets.

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Yeah, 03 was a real kick in the nuts..total collapse-choke job.

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2003 was a collapse, but not as tragic as many view. The Cubs had one hell of a pitching staff that year, but that Marlins team was STACKED. They really were the better team.

i think it was one of your best examples of the difference a manager can make....cause Dusty got bitch-slapped by Jack McKeon.

I don't see this Cubs org collapsing. They will compete for the next several years. that's a hell of an improvement over the last 100+ years were playoff appearances were few and far between.

They were going to go all the way in 2004.

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Not saying it wasn't a kick in the nuts...I'm just saying that Marlins team wasn't some kind of fluke. They were really fucking good.

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2003 was a collapse, but not as tragic as many view. The Cubs had one hell of a pitching staff that year, but that Marlins team was STACKED. They really were the better team.

i think it was one of your best examples of the difference a manager can make....cause Dusty got bitch-slapped by Jack McKeon.

I don't see this Cubs org collapsing. They will compete for the next several years. that's a hell of an improvement over the last 100+ years were playoff appearances were few and far between.

They were going to go all the way in 2004.


Didn't they choke their way out of the playoffs in September of 04?

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Not saying it wasn't a kick in the nuts...I'm just saying that Marlins team wasn't some kind of fluke. They were really fucking good.


Was a really good team! Miggy and Beckett, both Stud showings. That said....No reason to lose 3 straight.

Can we now stop talking about it. :( :( :(

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Cub collapses (rated on disappointment scale. #1 being the most)

3. 1984 Cubs
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Just remember when reading Cof's predictions he predicted many times this season that they would not make the playoffs.

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Cub collapses (rated on disappointment scale. #1 being the most)

3. 1984 Cubs
2. 1969 Cubs
1. 2003 Cubs


84 would be ahead of 03 with me.


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I wasn't around in 1969, but I'd put that in front of 2003.

3. 1984
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Just remember when reading Cof's predictions he predicted many times this season that they would not make the playoffs.

to be fair, I doubt the Cubs brass expected that either. I thought the Nats would be too good...I thought the Cubs would finish with 90 wins tops.

So take my predictions with a saltshaker, that's fine.

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If this is how 2106 is going to play out, I'll just take my business elsewhere: wall to wall coverage (including breaking news) of an industry award even the majority of baseball fans do not care about.

Little Larry tried so desperately to talk Cubs in the first hour of his show. He steered and steered but each time he went to a caller it was all Bears.

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If this is how 2106 is going to play out, I'll just take my business elsewhere: wall to wall coverage (including breaking news) of an industry award even the majority of baseball fans do not care about.

Little Larry tried so desperately to talk Cubs in the first hour of his show. He steered and steered but each time he went to a caller it was all Bears.


Yes it will be all Cubs. When spring comes the only this that will save you is the Bear's draft.

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I wonder if every spring training game will now be broadcast like it was (seemed so anyway) during the WSOX days. I hated that shit.

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I wonder if every spring training game will now be broadcast like it was (seemed so anyway) during the WSOX days. I hated that shit.


Yeah, I didn't mind the first couple each spring. They just broadcast too damn many of them.

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I wonder if every spring training game will now be broadcast like it was (seemed so anyway) during the WSOX days. I hated that shit.


Yeah, I didn't mind the first couple each spring. They just broadcast too damn many of them.


spring training sucks. I have no idea how people generate an interest in it. It used to be for old coots with nothing better to do.

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I wonder if every spring training game will now be broadcast like it was (seemed so anyway) during the WSOX days. I hated that shit.


Yeah, I didn't mind the first couple each spring. They just broadcast too damn many of them.


Agree, but get ready for meaningless spring training baseball. I'm sure most of the games will be on.

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Two questions regarding the forthcoming Cubs channel:

1) Do you really think you can do this without the Blackhawks to provide destination programming the other six months?

2) Comcast dominates the cable market in Chicago. Comcast owns Comcast SportsNet, duh. Do you like the idea of the Cubs deserting Comcast and then asking Comcast to pick up their new channel, surely with a very high carriage fee? If you answered "yes," congratulations! You are Jerry Reinsdorf.

The Cubs will probably get their own channel, but by necessity it will be under the aegis of Comcast.

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1) Do you really think you can do this without the Blackhawks to provide destination programming the other six months?



Yes, constant reruns of the 2016-2019 Cubs World Series victories.

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When this topic used to come up, Terry would make fun of YES and how shitty it is outside of Yankee games, that it's just documentaries on Thurman Munson replayed a hundred times or some guy trying to sell you Mickey Mantle's ass hair, his point being that this is the most decorated sports franchise in America and even they struggle to program an entire cable channel of their own. (They have Nets games in the winter, but I rank them below the collectible home-shopping shows with the ass hair.) God only knows what the Mets' channel airs the rest of the year. UConn/'Cuse games, I guess maybe.

That Chicago only has one RSN while others have more isn't a bug, it's a feature. I'm glad we don't have that public-access MASN bullshit channel like the DMV does, or the utter clusterfuck L.A. has with the Dodgers' channel. I think it's great that about 25% of our teams' games are over the air (though I could do without the channel 50 sub-package) and not burdening cable subscribers with more and more carriage fees at a time when people are ready for massive change in how we consume pay TV. Fuck your revenue streams.

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When this topic used to come up, Terry would make fun of YES and how shitty it is outside of Yankee games, that it's just documentaries on Thurman Munson replayed a hundred times or some guy trying to sell you Mickey Mantle's ass hair, his point being that this is the most decorated sports franchise in America and even they struggle to program an entire cable channel of their own. (They have Nets games in the winter, but I rank them below the collectible home-shopping shows with the ass hair.) God only knows what the Mets' channel airs the rest of the year. UConn/'Cuse games, I guess maybe.

That Chicago only has one RSN while others have more isn't a bug, it's a feature. I'm glad we don't have that public-access MASN bullshit channel like the DMV does, or the utter clusterfuck L.A. has with the Dodgers' channel. I think it's great that about 25% of our teams' games are over the air (though I could do without the channel 50 sub-package) and not burdening cable subscribers with more and more carriage fees at a time when people are ready for massive change in how we consume pay TV. Fuck your revenue streams.


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When this topic used to come up, Terry would make fun of YES and how shitty it is outside of Yankee games, that it's just documentaries on Thurman Munson replayed a hundred times or some guy trying to sell you Mickey Mantle's ass hair, his point being that this is the most decorated sports franchise in America and even they struggle to program an entire cable channel of their own. (They have Nets games in the winter, but I rank them below the collectible home-shopping shows with the ass hair.) God only knows what the Mets' channel airs the rest of the year. UConn/'Cuse games, I guess maybe.

That Chicago only has one RSN while others have more isn't a bug, it's a feature. I'm glad we don't have that public-access MASN bullshit channel like the DMV does, or the utter clusterfuck L.A. has with the Dodgers' channel. I think it's great that about 25% of our teams' games are over the air (though I could do without the channel 50 sub-package) and not burdening cable subscribers with more and more carriage fees at a time when people are ready for massive change in how we consume pay TV. Fuck your revenue streams.



Ironically, a big part of the Cubs becoming the bigger of the two Chicago franchises was the ill-advised move of the White Sox to UHF followed by their cutting edge foray into pay TV. Would it really be so difficult to see the Cubs making a decision regarding the way their games are televised that caused it to go the other way?

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When this topic used to come up, Terry would make fun of YES and how shitty it is outside of Yankee games, that it's just documentaries on Thurman Munson replayed a hundred times or some guy trying to sell you Mickey Mantle's ass hair, his point being that this is the most decorated sports franchise in America and even they struggle to program an entire cable channel of their own. (They have Nets games in the winter, but I rank them below the collectible home-shopping shows with the ass hair.) God only knows what the Mets' channel airs the rest of the year. UConn/'Cuse games, I guess maybe.

That Chicago only has one RSN while others have more isn't a bug, it's a feature. I'm glad we don't have that public-access MASN bullshit channel like the DMV does, or the utter clusterfuck L.A. has with the Dodgers' channel. I think it's great that about 25% of our teams' games are over the air (though I could do without the channel 50 sub-package) and not burdening cable subscribers with more and more carriage fees at a time when people are ready for massive change in how we consume pay TV. Fuck your revenue streams.
Everyone in Chicago will have the CUBS network by the All Star game.

The only danger for the Cubs is that they waited too long to do this. By 2020, it is conceivable that cable television is thrown in for free with your internet service.

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Everyone in Chicago will have the CUBS network by the All Star game.


That's going to be based on how much it costs.

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Everyone in Chicago will have the CUBS network by the All Star game.


That's going to be based on how much it costs.
There will be a race to be the first to get it between Directv, Comcast, and FIOS/U-Verse, and that will set the price.

As I said though, the only issue may be that cable television may not be something people pay for by then. It may be a throw-in for internet service as we all watch netflix/hulu/yahoo. In that scenario, the CUBS network probably doesn't get much from cable providers, or they have to do a subscription model which forces jimmypasta to pay $8 a month for his CUBS network.

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Everyone in Chicago will have the CUBS network by the All Star game.


That's going to be based on how much it costs.
There will be a race to be the first to get it between Directv, Comcast, and FIOS/U-Verse, and that will set the price.

As I said though, the only issue may be that cable television may not be something people pay for by then. It may be a throw-in for internet service as we all watch netflix/hulu/yahoo. In that scenario, the CUBS network probably doesn't get much from cable providers, or they have to do a subscription model which forces jimmypasta to pay $8 a month for his CUBS network.


Well, it may be more than 8 bucks and IMU will pay it and jimmy will probably pay it, but Spaulding and Frank, et al won't and that isn't exactly the fat model the Cubs are dreaming about.

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3. 1984 Cubs
2. 1969 Cubs
1. 2003 Cubs


1. 1984. Cubs were up 2-0 inn a best of 5.
2. 2003
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Well, it may be more than 8 bucks and IMU will pay it and jimmy will probably pay it, but Spaulding and Frank, et al won't and that isn't exactly the fat model the Cubs are dreaming about.
I know. I'm saying the CUBS may simply be too late.

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