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https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/ ... 3601232896

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Wiilliams: "... said [to Rick Hahn] ‘OK, I want your definitive plan heading into the winter meetings,’ he couldn’t give it to me."


There's more if you want to read it. Not a great start to the offseason.


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Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 3h3 hours ago Chicago, IL
Wiilliams: "... said [to Rick Hahn] ‘OK, I want your definitive plan heading into the winter meetings,’ he couldn’t give it to me."


There's more if you want to read it. Not a great start to the offseason.

Well by a lot of accounts they won last years winter meetings and how'd that work out for them?

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One might consider spending a bathroom visit scrolling thru https://twitter.com/HackHarrelson ... nothing extraordinary, but it passes the time while you pass whatever.

To BRogue's point ... "If the GM meetings don't start with a trophy presentation to Rick Hahn for winning last year's offseason, something is wrong."

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Why does Hahn need a plan when Kenny gets to do what he wants anyway

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I'm sure Hahn's plan would not jive with Kenny and Jerry's plan, so what is the point of making one?


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I feel the same way.

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Why does Hahn need a plan when Kenny gets to do what he wants anyway

Thats probably what Hahn actually told him.

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My take is Rick Hahn might be the kind of person too lazy to buy an iPass but still blows through the open tollway lanes and pays the bill online.


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That answers my question of why they weren't in on the John Ryan Murphy trade. Hahn falling asleep at the wheel.


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Hahn falling asleep at the wheel.

Kenny probably slipped him a Cosby


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That answers my question of why they weren't in on the John Ryan Murphy trade. Hahn falling asleep at the wheel.

Is it really falling asleep at the wheel when Kenny Williams has the route all planned out?

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Clearly, they are waiting for Castro to die so they can move to Habana.


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Since I have started this website, I have posted that Kenny Williams is really an asshole.

Of course, my view had to be skewed being a Cubs fan, I could never make that statement from a unbiased point of view.

Yet, the issues were evident everyday.

One of Kenny's first actions, when Hahn was named GM was to make sure he was the first guy in line at the Sox convention to ask the new GM questions. While some might have seen this as funny, it is just another example of what an asshole Kenny is, because it wasnt about being funny, it was about Kenny showing Hahn how hard it is to take the pressure of the media pressure.

Of course there is tension in the organization and it now gets worse and worse with Kenny putting himself back into play.

The one thing I can't answer is why Reinsdorf allows it to always happen, in both teams, I can only guess. My guess is his true enjoyment of being the final solution to all the chaos. That he thinks the chaos fuels desires to win, or some shit like that. I don't know what it is, but I dont think it ever presents what fans want to see in an organization..or lack thereof.

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Kenny seriously did that? What a dickhead. Yeah, the crushing pressure of White Sox beat reporters. Probably just a move to establish his dominance over Hahn; count your blessings that he didn't dry-hump him instead.

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Kenny seriously did that? What a dickhead. Yeah, the crushing pressure of White Sox beat reporters. Probably just a move to establish his dominance over Hahn; count your blessings that he didn't dry-hump him instead.


Yep, let me add, it might have been considered somewhat funny if he ever spoke to the media...yet, he tries to almost haze Hahn in what kenny must have considered a burden of the job .

I know he did it because a member of the White Sox ownership told me about it as an example of what an ass he is, yes, I then confirmed it happened.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Kenny seriously did that? What a dickhead. Yeah, the crushing pressure of White Sox beat reporters. Probably just a move to establish his dominance over Hahn; count your blessings that he didn't dry-hump him instead.


[quote]Yep, let me add, it might have been considered somewhat funny if he ever spoke to the media...yet, he tries to almost haze Hahn in what kenny must have considered a burden of the job .

I know he did it because a member of the White Sox ownership told me about it as an example of what an ass he is, yes, I then confirmed it happened.
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Brutally obvious circle jerk


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Kenny has pictures of the chairman with Steve Stone's tomahawk.

It's the only possible answer.

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Antiesmo wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Kenny seriously did that? What a dickhead. Yeah, the crushing pressure of White Sox beat reporters. Probably just a move to establish his dominance over Hahn; count your blessings that he didn't dry-hump him instead.


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Yep, let me add, it might have been considered somewhat funny if he ever spoke to the media...yet, he tries to almost haze Hahn in what kenny must have considered a burden of the job .

I know he did it because a member of the White Sox ownership told me about it as an example of what an ass he is, yes, I then confirmed it happened.
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Brutally obvious circle jerk


LOL

so the BIG TIME Sox fan, who told me that it happened? or is he lieing about what happened at the Super Sox Fan Extravaganza, which is another FREE Idea presented to White Sox brass, to not call it a FAN convention, like every other team does....but once again, I am not smart enough to keep putting on such events like "Let your dog poop in the park"

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bigfan wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Kenny seriously did that? What a dickhead. Yeah, the crushing pressure of White Sox beat reporters. Probably just a move to establish his dominance over Hahn; count your blessings that he didn't dry-hump him instead.


Yep, let me add, it might have been considered somewhat funny if he ever spoke to the media...yet, he tries to almost haze Hahn in what kenny must have considered a burden of the job .

I know he did it because a member of the White Sox ownership told me about it as an example of what an ass he is, yes, I then confirmed it happened.


He told the public that Hahn hadn't graduated to making big decisions. That was evidence enough for me. If you think that, you don't say that to the public.

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Kenny makes very few public statements. Look at the high % of them that have to do with Hahn.

Yet, Hahn never says anything, because he cant. He made a deal with the devil.

When I worked for the worlds worst human being, he had an accountant who was very good. yet, the guy was almost broke after a divorce, down on his luck, needed a new car....so Mr Worst Guy Ever bought him a new car and he would take the payments out of his check. On the surface, seems like a good thing, but in reality it makes it tougher than ever for the accountant to now leave and get another job. Yes, I am sure there is some way he could give the car back, than the lawsuits start, etc....the point being, it was done with the sole intention of not letting the accountant go looking for another job.

Hahn signed a similar deal.

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I believe the White Sox getting rid of Kenny Williams would speed up the process of the White Sox organization getting good again.

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Kenny makes very few public statements. Look at the high % of them that have to do with Hahn.

Yet, Hahn never says anything, because he cant. He made a deal with the devil.

When I worked for the worlds worst human being, he had an accountant who was very good. yet, the guy was almost broke after a divorce, down on his luck, needed a new car....so Mr Worst Guy Ever bought him a new car and he would take the payments out of his check. On the surface, seems like a good thing, but in reality it makes it tougher than ever for the accountant to now leave and get another job. Yes, I am sure there is some way he could give the car back, than the lawsuits start, etc....the point being, it was done with the sole intention of not letting the accountant go looking for another job.

Hahn signed a similar deal.

Isn't Hahn a tribesman? How could he sign a dumb deal like that?

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Kenny makes very few public statements. Look at the high % of them that have to do with Hahn.

Yet, Hahn never says anything, because he cant. He made a deal with the devil.

When I worked for the worlds worst human being, he had an accountant who was very good. yet, the guy was almost broke after a divorce, down on his luck, needed a new car....so Mr Worst Guy Ever bought him a new car and he would take the payments out of his check. On the surface, seems like a good thing, but in reality it makes it tougher than ever for the accountant to now leave and get another job. Yes, I am sure there is some way he could give the car back, than the lawsuits start, etc....the point being, it was done with the sole intention of not letting the accountant go looking for another job.

Hahn signed a similar deal.

Isn't Hahn a tribesman? How could he sign a dumb deal like that?


Jerry is a veteran.

As smart as Ricky is, Harvard, etc. Real world dealing is just so much more valuable.

Jerrys job is to run a profitable baseball team, yet he wants this environment of #FAMILY. Well, I am not sure Quintana got a deal Jerry would give to Family. Same with Sale.

When you start talking to a kid who is 26 about generational wealth and security, they have never been there before, Jerry has seen it a hundred times and he knows the leverage he has most of the time and he uses it.

So, for all the smarts hahn has, he never was in a situation of his life being secured in a number of ways....and now it is. His cost was that he is now Kenny and Jerrys bitch for another 3 years...and maybe longer, but his exit would need to be planned for a long time.

One can not match Reinsdorf at the table when it comes to a deal. He has what he wants to do when they approach the table and if he doesnt get it, he moves on.

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So this really explains why neither Hahn or Kenny is going anywhere.

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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
So this really explains why neither Hahn or Kenny is going anywhere.


They actually have similar deals that do tie them here to a point.

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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
So this really explains why neither Hahn or Kenny is going anywhere.


They actually have similar deals that do tie them here to a point.


It sounded like the deal KW got when he first started. Roland Hemond was brought back to hand hold (which had to sting) & now it's starting to look like company business.

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Now that we have that clear, can you tell us how much Stoney hates Hawk?

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