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It's anticipated that Sox fans will take to the streets to celebrate this monumental acquiitision.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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was to be expected. seems he could have some upside.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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Can't be worse than Tyler Flowers and Geo Soto.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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flowers isn't going anywhere. :lol:

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flowers isn't going anywhere. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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These stupid fuckers. Avila is one foul tip to the grill away from the loony bin.


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Going to be an awkward Thanksgiving at the Avila house.

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These stupid fuckers. Avila is one foul tip to the grill away from the loony bin.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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Dad doesn't want him, doesn't trouble Kenny

Hasn't been good in four years but still an upgrade over last year.

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This may bring me back to being a White Sox fan.

We may win two offseasons in a row.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Can't be worse than Tyler Flowers and Geo Soto.


from Fangraphs

2015 Soto .219 BA .301 OBP .406 Slg .708 OPS DEF 4.9 War 1.1 32Y/O signed by Oakland 1yr 2.5 mil
2015 Avila .191 BA .339 OBP .287 Slg .626 OPS DEF 1.8 War 0.5 28 Y/O signed by Sox 1yr 2.5 mil

How is this an upgrade? What am I not seeing?

The long Khahn continues......

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
You never see anything.


So enlighten me ....

Reading most of the posts from other Sox I thought the 2015 were weak at Catcher (among other positions) and overall team defense and power...

Avila has less power and is weaker defensibly... he and Soto signed the exact same deal 1 year 2.5 mil... as Danny B would ..how does this signing move you closer to the championship?

So I will wait for your brilliant analytical breakdown on how and why this move improves your team.

Thanks in advance for your time and insight.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
You never see anything.


So enlighten me ....

Reading most of the posts from other Sox I thought the 2015 were weak at Catcher (among other positions) and overall team defense and power...

Avila has less power and is weaker defensibly... he and Soto signed the exact same deal 1 year 2.5 mil... as Danny B would ..how does this signing move you closer to the championship?

So I will wait for your brilliant analytical breakdown on how and why this move improves your team.

Thanks in advance for your time and insight.

THE BIGQUISITOR!

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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Yep. bigfan forgot to logout as Inquisitor for this one.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
You never see anything.

Frank, do you think Avila is an upgrade?

Hard to argue with those numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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I think he has a higher ceiling than Flowers and Soto. After a down injury plagued year, I'll take my chances.

Soto was also a backup last year, so don't let biginquisifan fool you.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Frank, do you think Avila is an upgrade?

Hard to argue with those numbers.


The obvious response is that it was an injury year for Avila. He is 28 years old, so really just entering his prime with a bounce back year a reasonable expectation. While he might not frame as well (subjective and overrated stat by the way) as Soto he does throw out runners at a higher percentage and would generally be considered a better defender. Last year's war is low compared to the rest of his career. He gets on base at a pretty decent clip, even in his bad years.

That said, I'm not expecting much of an upgrade. Give me better defense and a higher OBP and I am OK with this. Dioneer Navarro was my guy but he is older and no lock to be much better.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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I slightly prefer Avila but he is a major injury risk.

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RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
You never see anything.

Frank, do you think Avila is an upgrade?

Hard to argue with those numbers.



He frames pitches better

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
You never see anything.


So enlighten me ....

Reading most of the posts from other Sox I thought the 2015 were weak at Catcher (among other positions) and overall team defense and power...

Avila has less power and is weaker defensibly... he and Soto signed the exact same deal 1 year 2.5 mil... as Danny B would ..how does this signing move you closer to the championship?

So I will wait for your brilliant analytical breakdown on how and why this move improves your team.

Thanks in advance for your time and insight.

THE BIGQUISITOR!


There you go again. Please feel free to go back and review the differences between myself and the Quiz on Bear McCaskey issues. or did I just have an arguement with myself like Baby Mac?

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Hatchetman wrote:
I slightly prefer Avila but he is a major injury risk.


Anyone like to take into account his Dad is the Tigers Exec VP and didnt want him?

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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Hatchetman wrote:
I slightly prefer Avila but he is a major injury risk.


Anyone like to take into account his Dad is the Tigers Exec VP and didnt want him?





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 Post subject: Re: Alex Avila
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bigfan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I slightly prefer Avila but he is a major injury risk.


Anyone like to take into account his Dad is the Tigers Exec VP and didnt want him?


Conversely Kenny Williams drafted his kid...how'd that workout?

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