Ok, I finished 10-13

That was great.

The ending twist was ruined though by the baby carrots scene, imo. Would have packed a way bigger wallop if Evie showed up at the end out of nowhere

I thought it was a pretty good episode. They really have everything set up for a great finale I'll give them that much. Been happy with how this series
has bounced back. I left last season not really sure I wanted to keep watching it.

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I liked the finale. Though I can understand why people don't.

No idea what this means for Kevin. Interested to see though.

Hopefully they get a season 3.

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I thought it was great.

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Very good season, but slightly disappointed with the finale. Maybe they leave it this way in case the series doesn't come back for another season?
I think there are enough unanswered questions to keep it going but they will need some more terrific writing. I'd be ok if this show ended here.

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GREAT finale. They gave you everything you could want.

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Compared to the rest of the season, very little happened in the finale.

The entire season was phenomenal television, but I just felt the last episode lacked something. This was the first episode this season I watched live, and it really just ended with disappointment for me.

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Kevin Shot
Finding out John's past with the father in law
The Mute talks AND reveals Matt was telling the truth about her awakening
The bridge scene was fucking great
The guilty remnant revealed themselves and plan
The baby got stolen
The son saved the baby again



What else did you want?

Small portion of a very long interview with the shows creator which can be seen here...

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watchi ... f-the-show


Let's start with a meta question: why are we doing this interview? A year ago, you didn't want to do any post-mortems. You wanted to let the show speak for itself. You did a bunch at the start of this season, you talked to Mo Ryan last week, and are doing a few like this for the finale. Why did you decide to be a little bit more out there this year?

Damon Lindelof: Interesting choice of words. I think what it all boils down to is I have to be as transparent and as honest as possible, which is, now I'm fighting for the life of the show. I think that if I were in a different scenario, I could be more precious about how much I talked about the show. But we live in a media climate where buzz is a very real thing, and if me giving an interview creates clicks or press or buzz in any way, then if the show doesn't come back, I have to be in a position where I can say I did everything I could to propagate the life of the show. And that includes saying yes a little bit more often. I still want to try to limit the explanation aspect of the interviews: Explain this, explain that, what did you mean by? But just shutting the door and saying, "I'm not accessible and I'm not willing to talk about the show" is ultimately going to do more damage to the show.

That's what I'm telling myself. The short answer might just be I have a huge ego and need to talk more.

So let's talk about the future. Where do things stand, as far as you know, and what has to happen for a season 3 to exist?

Damon Lindelof: I don't know what the answer to the last part is. I can guess at what those things are, but no one has told me what the rules are. I know that HBO is really happy with the creative of the show; they've been immensely supportive of what we wanted to do, and they've been highly collaborative and pleased with the results. That said, all of us have to take a pragmatic look at the numbers. HBO is not Netflix or Amazon. The numbers of the show are known, and the truth of the matter is that the ratings are down from season 1. If the show was always an underperformer, the little engine that could, and the trajectory was flat, or up or down a little bit, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now. The reality is, everybody felt that the show was ascending a bit, creatively and ratings-wise, towards the end of the season, and in the interim between the two seasons, we lost a lot of the audience coming into this year. That's the situation that we're in. The critical buzz, the critical response, and the fan response, has been much more positive this year than it was last year. And that matters; that's important. But I think what would be great is if there were some kind of bump in the finale ratings. We actually saw an uptick in the ratings for episode 9, which I was surprised by, considering we were up against "The Walking Dead" mid-season finale and an incredible football game that I was watching and rooting for the Broncos. It would be great if that trajectory continued. It would probably be bad if we lost viewership from episode 9 to the finale. Any case that can be made for a show that is picking up momentum would be huge. But the reality is, I'm talking to HBO. We're going to sit down before the holidays and get a sense of where everybody's head is at. I certainly want to make more episodes of "The Leftovers." That's kind of how things sit.

Technically, when do the actors' options lapse? That tends to be the drop-dead date for these kinds of decisions.

Damon Lindelof: I don't know the specific answer to that question, but my understanding of it is that it's somewhere in the February window. But my sense of it is — and I don't want to put words in HBO's mouth —that they don't want to drag this out. I have a sense that we'll have real clarity right around the new year, either before or shortly after. Obviously, the actors would want to take other projects, the writing staff, my own mental head space. And HBO, everything they'll need to know, they'll know by the new year.

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Indeed. Fantastic finale.

Not sure how I feel about that finale. The payoff wasn't that impressive and at times just way too convenient.

Did we ever find out what John's father in law did to him??? Kevin said he knew what it was, but I don't remember ever hearing the specifics.


The GR's big plan for Miracle was extremely weak. What did they even do? Crash the gate? What will that prove or accomplish? Its not like they couldn't run them all out of town in a few days with some back up. So I don't understand what they were even trying to accomplish? The 3 girls joining the GR? So what?

What's her name speaking in the finale was way too easy and seemed almost just thrown in there to tie up that end.

As for answering all the questions, I don't agree at all.

We never found out what was the point of the guy who lives in the tower in the middle of town.

What's the deal with Kevin? Is he immortal now and can't die?

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It was a huge gesture showing that October 14th happened and even though they didnt technically lose anyone, they were just as affected as everyone else (kinda like how Kevin lost no one)

They effectively reminded (their whole purpose) the unremindable.

Also Evie faking the cricket death was a nice homage to her faking her own death


I think the bell tower guy is chalked up to general weirdness of the town and people doing whatever they did on the original Oct 14 out of superstition.

I dont think Kevin is immortal.

So you're saying the guy in the tower lived in the tower before the big day?

As for the GR, I wouldn't call that an effective protest or whatever. They stormed the town and celebrated like they just watched their beloved Detroit Pistons win an NBA title. Not sure how that is supposed to remind people of Oct 14. Last season's grand gesture by the GR, that's something I would call effective.

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And you said that we found out what the old man did to John....so what was it cause I don't remember them ever saying what he did.

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No, I meant that John shot him. What he did to John was not revealed.

ahh gotcha, that makes more sense. I thought maybe I missed something last week or this week.

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I think it was pretty clear that Virgil molested John, although it could have been Erika he molested.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

JORR gers it.

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I rewatched the end last night as I was falling asleep on sunday

What a performance by Justin Theroux.

That terrible version of Homeword Bound was fucking great.

Agreed.

I did the same and it really was amazing watching the second time.

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I've rewatched that scene a couple times. Wow, what a great performance and scene.

I spent about a season and three-quarters not liking the Kevin Garvey character. He seemed to be pretty boring to me as a character just kind of floating through scenes and not really reacting to anything.

Then, starting with International Assassin, he really became great. He is reacting the way you would expect.

He had so many great moments in that finale from yelling "Motherfucker!" when he realized he was back in the hotel or telling the guy he wouldn't sing "Because it's stupid" or when John tells him that he thought he killed him and just gives a "Nope". I loved it all. I'm a complete convert on his character.

It was a really great season of TV.

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Agreed on the Homeward Bound scene, Great finale, great season. I will be really pissed if this doesn't come back for a third season. Makes no fucking sense that it's on HBO on Sunday nights, it's this good, and the ratings still suck. People are dumb.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Renewed. 3rd and final season.

Nice.

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Hmmm. I was just starting to lean towards "leave it alone, now"

Awesome.

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Creatively it's probably a mistake but I still want to see the attempt.

I predict they go to Australia.

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Interesting.

Maybe Kevin and John go on a Walkabout.

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I hadn't heard that it was back. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they can follow up a season like that with another good one.
I'd like answers to some of the open questions. If they can keep it tight and concise between 8-10 episodes that would be ideal.

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The Walkabout episode of Lost was so good that I stayed with that damn show until the very end hoping they could, just once, match its greatness again - or even come close.

SPOILER ALERT: They couldn't.

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I didnt watch that show. It was a dream right?