This pretty much sums up my feelings on ESPN 1000. Not good, but not as bad as the alternative.

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I still think Giggles and Grimace are some sort of twisted revenge against Mac.

Fuck you Mac, we can put this fingernails on a chalkboard show on and make the same revenue as before.

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I'm shocked you'd see that angle.

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Well said.

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Mac and Meat was worse than the two shows mentioned in the title IMO.

Well, your opinion is wrong, and you're going to die penniless and alone and 5 pounds overweight.

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You can't see me because of internet.

The landowner effectively owns part shares in millions of part-time slaves called, "taxpayers." -Roy L
A Personal Relationship with Jesus?

I'd settle for 2 out of those 3.

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"Now comes good sailing. Moose. Indian."

I don't really get why people romanticize Mac and Spiegs compared to what's been on since. The show was never any good, not at the start and not at the end, and the complaints directed at Goff and Spiegs about boring non-sports talk regarding their personal lives applied just as much when Mac was there. Heck most of the time there was a fill-in working with either of the two, be it Goff, Oak Park Vandy, Rozner, Finfer, or even Holmes, the show discussion threads would fill up with comments that that day's particular team was superior to the normal duo.

It wasn't good, it just wasn't this bad. You're right about Mac's attendance, however. But even the fill-ins are better than Goff.

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The landowner effectively owns part shares in millions of part-time slaves called, "taxpayers." -Roy L
A Personal Relationship with Jesus?

I think Jason can be better, but he hasn't been set up to succeed with Spiegel's expiring contract.

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Are you suggesting a better co-host would elevate Goff's ability to win listeners? What type of co-host? Because I don't see Spiegel holding him down by allowing himself to giggle while being steamrolled.

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I could see Goff improving if he was paired with someone motivated more to drive the show, thus having Goff STFU once in a while.

I would see that first as a war of wills, and then devloving into a bunch of snide comments under the guise of "ball busting." When he was in Atlanta he started out the same way as here, and his partner was soon removed. I just don't think he has the necessary self-awareness to want to be better or to allow a partner to help elevate him.

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Goff is the Gordon Beckham of talk sports........a never was

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

probably true. He's confident without the actual proficiency to back it up.

How much would be improved if he simply remembered this is an audio medium. I'm guessing nobody cares enough to tell him the clap/slap/pound/giggle literally sounds bad, nor would Jason heed their words ('nah I'm good').

Probably my biggest problem with the show is the complete lack of actual, focused sports talk. They allow themselves to get sidetracked for entire segments of the show on things that are pointless and unfunny (though you wouldn't know it by the amount of laughter in the studio).

And you'd think that interviews would give them a chance to finally hone in on something, but then half the segment is taken up by Goff talking to himself during a 175 word preamble to a question that never arrives.

How have they not realized that there are problems with the show? How has no one brought this up to them?

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Why don't I own this?

literally no one cares

Giggles needs a partner who says "What are you laughing about?"

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Working @ the Score is like being a White Sox employee, haven't been in good in a decade and you have a job for life ..even if ya suck @ it.

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The key component of this shit is supposed to be comedic value. I know a lot of you guys despise B&B because they make fun of you when you call the show, but they're undeniably hilarious. Spiegel & Goff couldn't bring the comedy if their lives depended on it. That's the primary reason why their show is unlistenable. There's a whole lot of laughing going on, but nothing funny is actually being said.

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Worst day was when they announced Goff was coming back. Had the oppourtunity to bring in someone big time and they brought in a retread who talks about getting his haircut every show or what hes doing at his "crib"

I had this show on for a couple of minutes today. My goodness, it is really bad. In fact, it is impossible to listen to.

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