Don't let it be the last post.

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Seconded!

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Only the sports stuff.

He's spot on with social issues etc

ONLY WHEN HE POSTS AS FREEDUMB.

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He was referring to his DEFENSE.

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everything you said, Dr. Ken, is what I was trying to type earlier today. The move doesn't mesh with a long window viewpoint...it meshes with a win next year and suck the next three move, a Lester-type move. I am a Zobrist fan...I just think Starlin will get better. He's only 25. Why would you think his best days are behind him? And he's cost controlled.

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I think the quick and ostensibly obvious take on this is why trade a 25 year old with potential upside for a 35 year old vet with significant potential for downside. It's the leading logical though. Hell I'm an unapologetic Castro detractor but I don't quite know how to react to what essentially boils down to trading Castro for Warren & Zobrist.

On the other hand, I don't offhand recall any Cubs GM making a calculated (I presume) trade to win a WS that wasn't either getting a name free agent or fleecing a small-market team offering crumbs for meat. Making piddly moves and trades here and there, sure, but not often under the banner of "we want to win immediately". It's possible this feels peculiar because the situation around the moves is unusual.

People here and abroad are treating this, it seems, like it's a big-deal type move. Maybe it's just moving some pieces around trying to get a little bit better - fine-tuning rather than overhauling.

Is this Theo shitting the bed. It might be.

Is this Theo being the super genius he's purported to be? It could be.

What it is, however, is premature to make any pronouncement one way or the other, really not a ton different than judging a draft class the day after they're picked.

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oh for cryin out loud. since when did sucking at baseball become a protected class. castro fucking sucks. he has for years.

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Are you required by law to have X amount of bad thoughts a day?

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Seems like he is on the pittmike plan

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The fact of the matter is Castro is a good young player but also a guy who is owed 38M+ for the next 4 years so yea in 3 or 4 years he should be outperforming Zobrist but after that, assuming he is performing well, he will be a free agent and want more cash.

So the bottom line is he is a commodity that has been dealt and in the eyes of Maddon and the front office, this improves the team in the short term and thus they made the deal and the signing.

I think this would have worth the risk for Hahn to have traded a good reliever like Nate Jones for the potential of Castro at a position of desperate need. Try him back at SS.

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All middle infielders 2013-2015 min 900 PA:

Name WAR/500
Troy Tulowitzki 4.5
Matt Carpenter 3.8
Dustin Pedroia 3.4
Ben Zobrist 3.3
Robinson Cano 3.3
Jhonny Peralta 3.1
Anthony Rendon 3.1
Brandon Crawford 3.0
Ian Kinsler 3.0
Jason Kipnis 2.8
Dee Gordon 2.8
Howie Kendrick 2.8
Ian Desmond 2.7
Andrelton Simmons 2.7
Brian Dozier 2.6
Hanley Ramirez 2.6
Chase Utley 2.6
Neil Walker 2.5
Jose Altuve 2.4
Daniel Murphy 2.2
Jed Lowrie 2.1
J.J. Hardy 2.0
Jose Reyes 2.0
Didi Gregorius 1.9
Brandon Phillips 1.9
Xander Bogaerts 1.8
Erick Aybar 1.8
Scooter Gennett 1.8
Kolten Wong 1.8
Brad Miller 1.7
Eduardo Escobar 1.7
Yunel Escobar 1.6
Zack Cozart 1.6
Alcides Escobar 1.5
Jimmy Rollins 1.5
Alexei Ramirez 1.5
Jordy Mercer 1.5
Logan Forsythe 1.5
Elvis Andrus 1.3
Marcus Semien 1.3
Danny Espinosa 1.2
Asdrubal Cabrera 1.2
Emilio Bonifacio 1.1
Everth Cabrera 1.1
Jedd Gyorko 1.1
Stephen Drew 1.1
Stephen Drew 1.1
Marwin Gonzalez 1.1
Jean Segura 1.0
Ruben Tejada 1.0
DJ LeMahieu 1.0
Starlin Castro 1.0
Omar Infante 0.9
Eric Sogard 0.9
Freddy Galvis 0.6
Aaron Hill 0.5
Gordon Beckham 0.4
Chris Owings 0.4
Chris Owings 0.4
Adeiny Hechavarria 0.3
Alexi Amarista -0.2
Alberto Callaspo -0.5

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I think some are suggesting the possibility that in another three years Zobrist's and Castro's WARs could be more or less reversed.

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oh, I think we're more than suggesting.

Theo is supposed to give position player contracts based on future projection, not on past performance.

You can show those stats but that should have nothing to do with Theo's decision.

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There is also a chance that the Castro of the first 5 months of 2015 will be the real Castro and he will become a journeyman and/or out of baseball.

there's a chance demons will fly out of my asshole.

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Count me out.

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Hold it Chachi, dont go over board.

Future projections are largely based on stats of the past

eveybody knows Zobrist could be (will be) shit in two tree years.

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So what?

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Middle infielders don't age well.

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I dont think you can really say that one way or the other anymore. Were not far enough out of the steroid era to establish the new norms, imo


One good thing is he had one of his best offensive years last year.

Castro @ second is still a liability.. I'm OK with the trade, I'd rather have moved Baez and Keep Castro tho. I could see Castro playing for another 12 + years and getting 3k hits.. That's the rub with him.. He can't walk and he's not very quick and he's a really dumb base runner.

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Historically they haven't.

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