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I wonder what they will do with catcher going forward


what do you need to do. Montero is above average. He just needs more extended breaks as he gets older.

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Willson Contreras.

C'mon RPB. The wealth of prospects is unending.

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The contract is back-loaded with a pay-cut in his first opt-out season. I'm gobsmacked. Theo wins again.



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Heyward salaries are: 15M in '16, then 21.5, 21.5, 20, 21, 21, 22 and 22. #cubs

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They have a top catching prospect in Willson Contreras. He's a strong defensive catcher who posted a 156 wRC+ in AA last season.

Ordinarily I'd point out that you guys are a couple of fucking dumbasses for posting on a Cubs board and not knowing such basic shit, but I'll give you a pass. Actually, I'm not going to give Dolphin a pass because he's a blatant numbnuts. But then again, I guess he can't really help it. The people who spawned him are the ones that need to answer for this shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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Wait, that doesn't even add up. Never mind.

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That doesn't add up to $184M?

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The contract is back-loaded with a pay-cut in his first opt-out season. I'm gobsmacked. Theo wins again.



Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 15m15 minutes ago

Heyward salaries are: 15M in '16, then 21.5, 21.5, 20, 21, 21, 22 and 22. #cubs
Heyward is going to be PISSED when he reads the contract.

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That twitter account says he also gets a $20 million signing bonus whether he opts out or not.

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That twitter account says he also gets a $20 million signing bonus whether he opts out or not.


Theo gets a draw again!

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They have a top catching prospect in Willson Contreras. He's a strong defensive catcher who posted a 156 wRC+ in AA last season.

Ordinarily I'd point out that you guys are a couple of fucking dumbasses for posting on a Cubs board and not knowing such basic shit, but I'll give you a pass. Actually, I'm not going to give Dolphin a pass because he's a blatant numbnuts. But then again, I guess he can't really help it. The people who spawned him are the ones that need to answer for this shit.


the polish. given their inherent handicap gotta say not too shabby.


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Actually, I'm not going to give Dolphin a pass because he's a blatant numbnuts. But then again, I guess he can't really help it. The people who spawned him are the ones that need to answer for this shit.



So, I'm confused. Are you giving him a pass or aren't you?

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whiskey dick wrote:
They have a top catching prospect in Willson Contreras. He's a strong defensive catcher who posted a 156 wRC+ in AA last season.

Ordinarily I'd point out that you guys are a couple of fucking dumbasses for posting on a Cubs board and not knowing such basic shit, but I'll give you a pass. Actually, I'm not going to give Dolphin a pass because he's a blatant numbnuts. But then again, I guess he can't really help it. The people who spawned him are the ones that need to answer for this shit.


Montero is not starting next year?

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They have projected lineup

Zobrist
Heyward
Bryant
Rizzo
Schwarber
Soler
Montero
Arrieta
Russell

I got

Heyward
Schwarber
Rizzo
Bryant
Zobrist
Soler
Montero
Russell
Arrieta


if i was making up the lineup there is no way id go schwarber and rizzo back-to-back. id be left-righting it all the way down the lineup, let the opposition tear up their bullpens trying to play matchups with that.

heyward
zobrist
rizzo
bryant
schwarber
soler
montero
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They have a top catching prospect in Willson Contreras. He's a strong defensive catcher who posted a 156 wRC+ in AA last season.

Ordinarily I'd point out that you guys are a couple of fucking dumbasses for posting on a Cubs board and not knowing such basic shit, but I'll give you a pass. Actually, I'm not going to give Dolphin a pass because he's a blatant numbnuts. But then again, I guess he can't really help it. The people who spawned him are the ones that need to answer for this shit.


the polish. given their inherent handicap gotta say not too shabby.


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I agree with ya about the righty-lefty lineup, BUT I love Schwarber in that 2 hole.. He gets a lot of fastballs in the zone.. IMO you gotta stick Schwarber at the 2 to maximize that power.

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"I didn't take the highest offer," Heyward told reporters.


"I just took the one that paid the most over the next three years at which time I expect my skills to remain intact and the market for contracts to increase. If I'm wrong, I guess $180 million is enough to fall back on."

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"I didn't take the highest offer," Heyward told reporters.


"I just took the one that paid the most over the next three years at which time I expect my skills to remain intact and the market for contracts to increase. If I'm wrong, I guess $180 million is enough to fall back on."


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"I didn't take the highest offer," Heyward told reporters.


"I just took the one that paid the most over the next three years at which time I expect my skills to remain intact and the market for contracts to increase. If I'm wrong, I guess $180 million is enough to fall back on."


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rogers park bryan wrote:
I wonder what they will do with catcher going forward


what do you need to do. Montero is above average. He just needs more extended breaks as he gets older.



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Willson Contreras.

C'mon RPB. The wealth of prospects is unending.


I remember hearing something right after the season about them not being happy with Montero and looking to upgrade. He was their second choice to Martin. I like Montero but not sure they do.


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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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They have a top catching prospect in Willson Contreras. He's a strong defensive catcher who posted a 156 wRC+ in AA last season.

Ordinarily I'd point out that you guys are a couple of fucking dumbasses for posting on a Cubs board and not knowing such basic shit, but I'll give you a pass. Actually, I'm not going to give Dolphin a pass because he's a blatant numbnuts. But then again, I guess he can't really help it. The people who spawned him are the ones that need to answer for this shit.

I know Wilson Contreras. Im talking specifically about this year and the report that they were not satisfied with Montero.


And it's not a Cubs board so your whole premise is flawed.


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Montero went through a stretch where he was driving everything the other way with power and snagging pitches out the dirt but for the most part he sucked at all facets of the game for most of the season. I expected more.


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Montero went through a stretch where he was driving everything the other way with power and snagging pitches out the dirt but for the most part he sucked at all facets of the game for most of the season. I expected more.

I guess the speculation was they might trade him to free up funds but Theo speaks glowingly about him

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BOCA RATON, Fla. – Even with all the moving pieces to this jigsaw-puzzle offseason, it doesn’t sound like the Cubs are ready to move Miguel Montero.

Trading Montero – who’s owed $28 million across the next two seasons – would be one way to help free up funds to sign one of the frontline pitchers the Cubs have been linked to during the general manager meetings at the Boca Raton Resort and Club.

President of baseball operations Theo Epstein started off this week in South Florida by ruling out the idea of signing two players to nine-figure contracts this winter, saying the Cubs would have to get creative just to put together one of those megadeals.

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But trading Montero after an up-and-down season isn’t on the table at this point.

“I wouldn’t anticipate that,” Epstein said. “That’s not something we’ve talked about at all. He was a big part of helping our run prevention last year (with) his framing behind the plate (and) his pitch-calling. We set an all-time National League record for strikeouts. We were third in ERA. He was a big part of that. It’s not something that we’re looking to disrupt at all.”

Montero finished with 15 homers and 53 RBI after missing almost a month with a sprained left thumb and dealing with two different three-catcher rotations that cut into his playing time.

At the age of 32, it’s hard to expect Montero to be the same force he had been at times with the Arizona Diamondbacks, where he made two All-Star teams.

But the Cubs don’t have an obvious alternative with top catching prospect Willson Contreras – who won a Southern League batting title this year – expected to start next season at Triple-A Iowa and need more time to develop defensively.

The Cubs have David Ross around for one more season at $2.25 million. Jon Lester’s personal catcher is an energetic clubhouse leader with the potential to manage in the big leagues someday. But the Cubs can’t count on a .176 hitter to play every day, especially when Ross will be 39 years old next season.

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And the Cubs can’t afford to send Kyle Schwarber back to the minors to continue learning how to catch – or rely on him every day behind the plate in The Show – if they want to get back to the NL Championship Series and play deeper into October.

“He’s going to continue to grow at both positions,” Epstein said. “He’s excited to try to get better in the outfield and to continue his growth behind the plate. I think he’s at an age (22) where that’s still possible to develop in both areas. It’s not necessarily ideal, but it’s something that I think he’s capable of doing.”


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I know Wilson Contreras. Im talking specifically about this year and the report that they were not satisfied with Montero.


You said that you wondered what the Cubs would do at catcher going forward. Don't leave room for interpretation, man. Learn how to phrase your shit properly.


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And it's not a Cubs board so your whole premise is flawed.


You can't be serious.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
I know Wilson Contreras. Im talking specifically about this year and the report that they were not satisfied with Montero.


You said that you wondered what the Cubs would do at catcher going forward. Don't leave room for interpretation, man. Learn how to phrase your shit properly.


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And it's not a Cubs board so your whole premise is flawed.


You can't be serious.
STFU.

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whiskey dick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I know Wilson Contreras. Im talking specifically about this year and the report that they were not satisfied with Montero.


You said that you wondered what the Cubs would do at catcher going forward. Don't leave room for interpretation, man. Learn how to phrase your shit properly.

The phrasing was fine. Its possible they could make a move that changes the Contreras trajectory. That was my question. If they did upgrade Montero it probably would affect it.
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And it's not a Cubs board so your whole premise is flawed.


You can't be serious.

Well it's not. I dont know what to tell you, whiskey dick.


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I dont know what to tell you, whiskey dick.


What's your favorite pizza place? Do you enjoy getting robbed in Rogers Park?

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