Nothing grindy about a guy who hit 29 and 35 HR the last two years with two all star appearances. I have my questions about how he will perform in the AL but they just got themselves an All Star 3B, not yet out of his prime and still under arbitration for two years.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Spiegel never misses a chance to show how little he knows about baseball.

I know you know a little. Do you really think Thompson is going to hit?

#ZoiloWho?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm surprised Sox fans aren't happier about this trade or offseason, in general. There are still some big name free agents out there that could really put an exclamation point on this offseason for the Sox if Jerry is willing to spend some.

Upton
Cespedes
Chris Davis (DH/1B)
Gordon
Kennedy (SS now, OF in future)

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I love this deal. It addressed several issues.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Sox are usually in win now mode. I have no problem with that. I prefer building from the ground up, but there is no sure fire to build a winner.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

OK, grindy/lunch bucket/team guy, take your pick. They're all euphemisms for guys the local press guys like, but will hit .255 imo. As for his power, he could swing for the fences all he wanted on teams that were destined for deep, deep last place. I'm just readying myself for .220 & 24 and a bucket of errors from the guy "who is having trouble adjusting to a new league".

I just don't need another "good guy" on an average/disappointing Chicago team shoved down my throat for the next few years. Btw, his All Star "status" really means little to me. If so, I'd have chimed in with thoughts on the All-Star Starlin Castro trade.

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May go down as one of the worst trades in Sox history. Frazier is guaranteed to fall apart and I believe strongly in Trayce Thompson.

RR hates White Baseball.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Him and Beardown

Mr. 240 in the minor leagues?

This is a fine trade, and makes the Lawrie deal much easier to deal with.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

It gets easier if you give up. That is what you all should do.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

This is a bad move, When you bring in low obp and low batting avg. Guys who swing for the fences from N.L. to A.L . those averages drop some, the obp drops some and the power drops some..that adds up to pretty shitty. My projection for TF

Avg- .250
Obp- .300
Hr- 22

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#WhiteBaseballMatters

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I've never been enamored with Frazier (or Jay Bruce, or any recent Reds' home-grown prospect not named Joey Votto), so I don't think this is a good deal unless the White Sox see something in Montas that makes them think he won't give them six decent cost-controlled years.

Frazier hitting in the #5 spot in Chicago? Who is going to hit #6 to give him any sort of meaningful protection? Alex Avila?

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

There is nothing outside of a one month call up that justifies your feeling about Thompson

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Wahoo....it's the second coming of Chris Sabo!!!

I remember listening to North on the Score the day the Sox got Sabo......he clapped & clapped on air as though the Sox had just signed Mike Schmidt or something.

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Proud to be UNVERIFIED.

Wow, I completely forgot that Sabo was with the Sox.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

If you look past his avg in the minors he actually didn't hit the ball poorly. .700+ OPS each of his last two seasons in the minors with his defense. Guess we're back on the Avi train.... great.

I can only imagine the crap you would give a Cubs fan for saying anything like this about one of their prospects

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I imagine the order is going to look something like

Eaton
Cabrera
Abreu
mystery DH
Frazier
Lawrie
Garcia
catcher
Saladino

that is the stuff .500 is made of. Not inspiring

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And men have lost their reason.

Offseason isn't over yet. LOTS of good players still available.

That is the stuff .400 is made of..but with Sale,Rodon and Quintana I could see 80-82@ best.

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Johnson and Thompson are prospects oldish prospects with one tool each.

I don't think happiness about the trade is going to hinge on what the Sox gave up. I think it will hinge on whether Frazier is the buster in the AL some of us fear he might be. If the Sox get NL Frazier, I'm more than happy with the price. If they get LaRoche, Dunn, etc. type of Frazier, I wouldn't want him at any price.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

don't be silly

.400 is 65 wins. This is a better lineup and starting staff right now than last year. 81-85 wins looks about right

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I don't think they are done either. He should give them some needed pop in the lineup. I am sure the Cubs like the deal. They won't have to face him 18 times next year.

This is basically it. And recent history isn't on the side of the White Sox when it comes to aging NL sluggers.

I look at it a lot like the Shark trade last year. The risk doesn't seem huge with the players they gave. It isn't particularly huge with the player they brought in as he is neither long term nor expensive. The reward is what troubles me.

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And men have lost their reason.

I got em @ 80 wins..if they would have not signed TF or BL and got Cespedes..they could win that division, Rodon will win 17 this year.

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