Anyone watching this on Netflix? Quite interesting and has a bunch of holy shit moments.

Just finished it.

Unreal and a scary look at the criminal justice system.

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I just finished this myself. Pretty fucked up shit.

After watch episode 3 and then deciding to Google him and find out he was convicted and will spend his life in prison I really didn't see the need to continue watching. What did I miss?

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His defense pretty much shot holes in every piece of evidence the prosecution brought up.

They talked about how the jury was 7-3 in favor of not guilty with 2 not sure when deliberations started, and the 3 who were voting guilty just wore everyone else down. So they eventually voted guilty just to go home.

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I still think he more than likely still killed her. But the way the whole case was handled was so fucking outrageous. The way the public defenders handled Brenden was insane.

Yeah he probably did it. But there's more than enough to reasonable doubt that jury shouldn't have convicted him.

I did enjoy the prosecutor basically becoming a pariah after his scandal.

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This has to be the most egregious miscarriage of justice ever fully documented.

How can you say he is probably guilty when all of the supposed evidence was pretty much shown to be planted or forced out of a mentally handicapped kid?

I'm still confused about how the prosecution got around the lack of blood at the scene after all the talk of stabbing, shooting and throat-slitting.

Probably was not enough to convict him but I believe he killed her.some of the other evidence not shown in the documentary like phone records and the such. He is a creepy dude and had an obsession it seems.

Yeah?

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Having a dead body on your property is a pretty big check mark to add to the guilty column. Don't get me wrong, there was tons of fucked up shit surrounding his case, and shouldn't have been convicted based on the evidence presented, but if he didn't do it then who the fuck did?

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Basically showed the body was moved there. Basically proved the cops found the cars days earlier and moved it their. Basically showed all of his blood was planted. Basically showed the key was planted in his house. Found absolutely no blood evidence proving their theory of the crime. Only witness is a kid with 70 IQ who said what they wanted so he could go back to school and turn in a project.

Not exactly proof of guilt.

Look at his nephew or brother in law. Live on same property. Lied about what time they left the property. We're carrying firearms. Would have left at same time the victim did. Have access to the entire site.

I'm going to need someone to explain the significance of the license plate thing. Did the cop report the plate numbers before the dead chick was reported missing? Or was it that he reported the numbers a couple days prior to the discovery of her car? If it's the later it's not nearly the bombshell the directors make it out to be, at least for me. You don't have to be looking at a plate to have the numbers.

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Yeah the defense argued that from the call it made it sound like the detective was looking at the car. I think he had the plate number and read it off.

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If he were just reading the number how would he have know the make,year and model already?
And if he did know all of that information why was he calling it in? The car wasn't found for two more days I believe?

If she was already reported missing then presumably the make, model, year, and plate number of her car would have already been given to the police. He could have been calling to check if whatever he was looking at matched the description given to him already. Of course why he wouldn't have said that when he was on the stand raises questions. Or I could be remembering all of this wrong. That is a distinct possibility.

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I watched one episode. It was interesting but not sure 10 more episodes interesting


I mean, I feel like I got the jist in the first one.

The interview with the kid was gut-wrenching. It was one of the most difficult things I've ever watched on a TV show.

I don't think that kid was involved with any of this.

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I wish I had Netflix to watch this. The case captivated me when it happened ten years ago. The local news made it sound like they pretty much had him
dead to rights and he seemed like a pretty logical suspect.

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Netflix is 8 dollars a month, bro.

Throw caution to the wind and buy it!

My bill for cable and internet is already high enough with all the movie channels. I'll live without it.

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I think the first episode is free on YouTube.

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Ill give you my login info, if you really want to watch it.

especially the way his court-appointed defense attorney and the attorney's own investigator were pressuring him into admitting guilt for a plea bargain just to get it off of their plate. that investigator was relentless with the pressure. it is easy for any of us to say "i would never admit i was guilty if i didn't do it" but this kid was basically getting threatened by his own defense team that he had better confess or he will be in jail forever even as he protested his innocence, and clearly he had some major learning disabilities and didn't know what the hell was going on. it was sad and hard to watch.

Well, I found this if you want to read something to make you feel a little better, possibly, that these guys may have actually done it.

http://www.pajiba.com/netflix_movies_an ... resent.php

I figured Avery was guilty somehow. It just didn't make sense that he could be framed in this manner. I do think the police planted evidence but he was probably guilty anyway.

Some of the links in that article to the transcripts could indicate that Brendan did know some things that the investigators didn't plant the ideas on. His involvement is certainly questionable from the stuff I've read so far, though.

In any event, the thing is a sad depiction of the judicial system.

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http://fusion.net/story/249427/netflix- ... -theories/

Interesting theories about the case, here.

Just saw this. That was insane. Those detectives are something else.

I mean they knew it was being recorded right? You wouldn't have to even see the video. The transcript would be enough.

He literally couldn't guess what they wanted to hear about the head. He gave up so they just told him.

No one's been able to answer my question about the cop calling in the plates. I think a rewatch is in line for that episode.

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The officer made the call days before the car was discovered. The issue was that, in the call, he seemed quite aware that this was the plate number for Hallbach's vehicle and when it was confirmed that she was the owner, he immediately knew the make and model of the car before being told. When questioned on the stand about it he lied and said that he was told that info by the woman on the phone but after replaying the call it was obvious that this was not the case. He also claimed that he was given the number by detectives but that he was not told the make and model of the car and had no explanation of how he would have known that info.

Essentially, that call makes no sense. If he was given the license plate # by the detectives in charge of the investigation he should have also had the make and model and would have had no reason to call it in. Unless, the defense argues, he wanted to confirm that the car he was looking at was the car he thought it was.

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