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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:58 am 
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Where does the White Sox farm system rank? Anyone have the last 5 years or so to show how it's progressing?


2016= not ranked but the Matt Eddy interview has them in the bottom third (21-30)
2015= 20
2014= 22
2013= 29
2012= 30
2011= 27
2010= 23
2009= 16
2008= 30
2007= 25
2006= 14
2005= 14

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:00 am 
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And over the last 5 years the farm system has gotten more talented in spite of Kenny/Hahn's trade frenzies, and the Sox aren't even reaping any benefits (yet) from the post-Wilder fiasco international market.

The Sox have been drafting very well the last few years.
I can confirm this.

One of the more impressive organization turnarounds in baseball. Though, in reality, it's just a function of losing and high draft picks just like all the other teams that did that that were in the playoffs this year.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:28 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
America wrote:
And over the last 5 years the farm system has gotten more talented in spite of Kenny/Hahn's trade frenzies, and the Sox aren't even reaping any benefits (yet) from the post-Wilder fiasco international market.

The Sox have been drafting very well the last few years.
I can confirm this.

One of the more impressive organization turnarounds in baseball. Though, in reality, it's just a function of losing and high draft picks just like all the other teams that did that that were in the playoffs this year.


While we can appreciate your new unbiased perspective.... I just have to say "WHO YOU CRAPPIN' "

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2016= not ranked but the Matt Eddy interview has them in the bottom third (21-30)
2015= 20
2014= 22
2013= 29
2012= 30
2011= 27


if that's your idea of a turnaround you are still smoking the 2005 pipe.

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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
America wrote:
And over the last 5 years the farm system has gotten more talented in spite of Kenny/Hahn's trade frenzies, and the Sox aren't even reaping any benefits (yet) from the post-Wilder fiasco international market.

The Sox have been drafting very well the last few years.
I can confirm this.

One of the more impressive organization turnarounds in baseball. Though, in reality, it's just a function of losing and high draft picks just like all the other teams that did that that were in the playoffs this year.


While we can appreciate your new unbiased perspective.... I just have to say "WHO YOU CRAPPIN' "

THE INQUISITOR wrote:

2016= not ranked but the Matt Eddy interview has them in the bottom third (21-30)
2015= 20
2014= 22
2013= 29
2012= 30
2011= 27


if that's your idea of a turnaround you are still smoking the 2005 pipe.
That is a pretty good turnaround given where they were and how they are quicker than most to bring up MLB ready talent rather than letting them sit on buses in the minors.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:40 am 
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Currently bottom 3rd, and closer the the middle tier than the "absolutely barrens" like San Diego and Detroit.

Kenny Williams (we know he is behind these trades) has traded nine top 30 talents the last two offseasons and the Sox graduated 3 top 30 guys last season. The only replenishment the system has seen in that time was from a comp pick gutted draft class that has already been partly dealt. So it's been a lot of attrition without much coming back for about a year and a half. About a 3rd of the would-be top 30 is gone, that's a lot to absorb.

If they hold on to all their picks for the 2016 draft and some guys further down the pole break out they'll climb to around 15. Of course if the Sox are any good next season Kenny will deal some of them at the deadline.

out of curiosity and a lack of knowledge of the Sox system, who were those nine?

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If they ranked #14 overall, that's a pretty dramatic improvement, and that's after trading for Shark, Frazier and Lawrie over the last year?


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Whoever ranked them 14 overall at any point since the mid-2000's when they had Chris Young needs to get their fucking head checked. No way, even before all the trades.

However, if they can stem the attrition of trading away 5 top 30 players every offseason for even one calender year I can see them make that leap very quickly. Maybe even this time next year. Kannapolis is loaded with a ton of potential top 100 guys and as of now the Sox are picking 10th, 28th and 48th.

I also get the feeling that's where Rick Hahn wants the Sox to be. Hanging around the middle third, moving closer to the front or back of the back of the pack depending on how many players they graduate.


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