His game doesn't translate to the NBA (unless you have 12 scorers like the Warriors do)
He doesn't have the fire and the passion nor TWTW.
He definitely does not fit well with an organization that has no personnel that can even begin to fit into his system
The Bulls' best player and face of the franchise does not jive with Hoiberg.
The Bulls previously had the second best coach in the NBA and anything besides Popovich was a downgrade.
The Bulls currently have their worst point differential since 2009 (excluding the year Rose missed)

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

at that one.

Unless the Bulls go out and rehire the "second best coach in the NBA" few will be satisfied. It is interesting that the "second best coach in the NBA" has yet to be hired by anyone else either. I know he is simply waiting on his plum job before he gets back in the game. That's what his supporters will tell you. Its interesting how the narrative sort of shifted once Hoiberg became the coach.

It wasn't too long ago that the overriding argument was that the Bulls were a team devoid of talent. The vast majority of their wins were due to the basketball genius of Thibodeau. Now they are presented as a talent laden team coached by a buffoon.

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I'm calling bullshit on your last sentence. People said the Bulls didn't have talent because of injuries and at one point the Bulls traded their best healthy scorer in the middle of the season. DJ Augustine was their best scorer that year. With the development of Butler and the addition of a Portis and the Bulls being healthier this is arguably their best team since the Bulls dynasty. Call it bad luck or whatever else but Thibs didn't have this.

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Wagering has become a hot topic on this board.

What would you feel comfortable wagering against Tom Thibodeau coaching in the NBA during the 2016-17 season?

We would both be required to send our wagers to a third party to hold onto until the bet is settled.

Top shelf coaches and managers have been taking a year off between jobs since professional sports were founded. If you think Thibodeau's phone was silent last off-season, you're crazy.

edit: Not crazy. Willfully stupid.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I'm sure given the way things went down with the Bulls, Thibs will be selective.

If you think the Bulls are better off with Hoiberg, I'll respectfully disagree.

Too early to say.

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I'm certain he will be coaching so I'm not going to take the bet. My contention is that he is not as in demand as his supporters would have you think. If he were he would have his pick of jobs and he hasn't. Teams didn't exactly line up for him, which should have occurred for the second best coach in the game.

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When Cleveland don't get it done this year, Thibs will be hired n look out.

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Last yr the Bulls even while fully healthy appeared to underachieve. Gasol performed better last yr and Butler emerged and they still didn't look that impressive.

Thibs offensive schemes stunk and he has to own that. He called all the plays from the bench. He also was the architect of said offense.

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And yet Thibs teams consistently have a better point differential. The goal is to score more points than the opponent. Not to score 120 a night.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

He's terrible.

He must be fired.

Noah played on 1 leg and Taj ankles were shot. Rose was Rose. They were never healthy.

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I don't discount it but wasn't he supposed to be in line for all of the job openings last season? It went from compensation to him deciding to sit out a yr.

He will get another job but anyone that thinks he did a good job coaching last yrs team needs their head examined. Better talent exposed him as a coach. They have the same team that they had last season.

The excuse making got to a point to where people were clamoring for the services of Mike Dunleavy of all people. He was deemed to be a difference maker.

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Where was that point differential when they struggled to score during the playoffs?

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Stop making stuff up. You're the one saying Dunleavy is a difference maker (I assume tongue in cheek) this year. I and many others believe that he should be gone.

The Bulls had a ton of injuries last year to key players. Their heart and soul played on 1 leg for the entire year. Rose and Taj missed a lot of games too. Yes they should have beaten a short handed Cleveland team (despite the injuries) but stars usually win series and Gasol was the closest thing to a star the Bulls had and he got hurt at the wrong time.

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Let me present you with an idea referred to as 'sample size.'

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

The Bulls went to 6 games with a Milwaukee team that really wasn't that good also. Lest not forget that not so stellar showing.

The fact of the matter is that the clamoring for Thibs never quite materialized. He was not the hottest coach on the market obviously. Teams repeatedly passed him over once he became available.

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I blame Paxson for that.. If he could act professional n keep his big mouth shut ... He could have gotten some compensation for Thibs.

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You've confirmed that you have no idea what to make of sample size.

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The Bulls played 12 games during the playoffs and routinely had droughts of 6 to 7 minutes. Apparently you have no idea what to make of this. That offense was brutal to watch. 3 games against Cleveland where they scored in the 70's. Don't know how small a size that was. They were blown out in the deciding game. Both Irving and Love out. It was time for Thibs to go.

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He may have been able to get a second rounder for him.

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You're trying to compare 12 games against hundreds. You understand this? How many times does 12 go into...let's say 300? Use a calculator if needed.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Thibs time was over. He was a good coach for the 1st several seasons but his time was up. The core tired of him. They would have been as bad or worse this year.

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The more you type the dumber you are sounding. The Bulls stunk during the playoffs and it was obvious Thibs had no answers. Cleveland beat a Bulls roster without two of their top three players basically.

You are referencing regular season games from earlier seasons. What bearing does that have on last season? They stunk and he should have been whacked.

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Fire him, if for no other reason than not having to look at his douchey little "punch me" face anymore.

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I thought they would be a little better, but I'm willing to give him a little more time. No way are they eating both he and Thibs's contracts. For better or worse they are stuck with Hoiberg.

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I too am conflicted by the Hoiberg-bashing. Clones gave up 60 points in a half v. Baylor over the weekend. Under Freddy, 50 tops.

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He's got that "Lovie Smith" look during games. Kind of quiet with a blank stare.

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