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 Post subject: The 2016 Oscars
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Only a couple things matter

Do Leo and Rocky finally get their Oscars?


I say no to both. Hardy wins supporting driving a stake through the heart of Stallone and DiCaprio (who will also lose and knows it) simultaneously



Best Motion Picture
The Big Short
Bridge of Spies
Brooklyn
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Martian
The Revenant
Room
Spotlight

Best Actor
Bryan Cranston, Trumbo
Matt Damon, The Martian
Leonardo DiCaprio, The Revenant
Michael Fassbender, Steve Jobs
Eddie Redmayne, The Danish Girl

Best Actress
Cate Blanchett, Carol
Brie Larson, Room
Jennifer Lawrence, Joy
Charlotte Rampling, 45 Years
Saoirse Ronan, Brooklyn

Best Supporting Actor
Christian Bale, The Big Short
Tom Hardy, The Revenant
Mark Ruffalo, Spotlight
Mark Rylance, Bridge of Spies
Sylvester Stallone, Creed

Best Supporting Actress
Jennifer Jason Leigh, The Hateful Eight
Rooney Mara, Carol
Rachel McAdams, Spotlight
Alicia Vikander, The Danish Girl
Kate Winslet, Steve Jobs

Best Director
Adam McKay, The Big Short
George Miller, Mad Max: Fury Road
Alejandro González Iñárritu, The Revenant
Lenny Abrahamson, Room
Tom McCarthy, Spotlight

Best Animated Feature Film
Anomalisa
Boy and the World
Inside Out
Shaun the Sheep Movie
When Marnie Was There

Best Cinematography
Carol
The Hateful Eight
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Revenant
Sicario

Best Documentary Feature
Amy
Cartel Land
The Look of Silence
What Happened, Miss Simone?
Winter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom

Best Sound Editing
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Martian
The Revenant
Sicario
Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Best Costume Design
Carol
Cinderella
The Danish Girl
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Revenant

Best Sounds Mixing
Bridge of Spies
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Martian
The Revenant
Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Best Original Song

"Earned It"
"Manta Ray"
"Simple Song No. 3"
"Till It Happens to You"
"Writing's on the Wall


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straight; don't care

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good dolphin wrote:
straight; don't care

Academy Awards matter. The ceremony is a little gay but that is more than offset by Rocky Balboa being involved.


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Leo and Rocky will both win.

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Where's Antonio Brown's nomination?

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 Post subject: Re: The 2016 Oscars
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I always though Stallone won one for the original Rocky. Huh.

Not sure how anyone beats Leo this year except maybe Redmayne in a performance of him playing a woman.

I would like to see Spotlight, Sicario and Creed before the Oscars.

Have seen The Revenant, Fury Road, The Big Short, The Martian.

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Bridge Of Spies was the only one I saw this year out of the Best Picture nominees. Was a great movie but Room will probably win from what I've heard about it. The Big Short looks fucking stupid.


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straight; don't care


And yet, you posted...


JJLeigh is relevant again.

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I always though Stallone won one for the original Rocky. Huh.

Not sure how anyone beats Leo this year except maybe Redmayne in a performance of him playing a woman.

I would like to see Spotlight, Sicario and Creed before the Oscars.

Have seen The Revenant, Fury Road, The Big Short, The Martian.


Rocky won best picture and other crap but not best leading actor. Now that I think about it I think he won for writing.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2016 Oscars
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T-Bone wrote:
I always though Stallone won one for the original Rocky. Huh.

It won Best Picture and since it was his movie he accepted so I can see why you thought that.


I think Cranston has a chance and a lot of people (including you) are starting to say The Revenant is more Hardy's movie than Leo


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 Post subject: Re: The 2016 Oscars
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pittmike wrote:

Rocky won best picture and other crap but not best picture.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
pittmike wrote:

Rocky won best picture and other crap but not best picture.


:lol: Ugh too early.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2016 Oscars
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Minooka Meatball wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
straight; don't care


And yet, you posted...


JJLeigh is relevant again.


getting my thoughts on the record

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 Post subject: Re: The 2016 Oscars
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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
straight; don't care

Academy Awards matter. The ceremony is a little gay but that is more than offset by Rocky Balboa being involved.


Why? Do you watch the ESPYs?

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 Post subject: Re: The 2016 Oscars
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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
straight; don't care

Academy Awards matter. The ceremony is a little gay but that is more than offset by Rocky Balboa being involved.


Why? Do you watch the ESPYs?

Of course not. I dont even watch the Oscars. But the winners matter. It's probably the only Hollywood award that truly carries weight.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
straight; don't care

Academy Awards matter. The ceremony is a little gay but that is more than offset by Rocky Balboa being involved.


Why? Do you watch the ESPYs?

Of course not. I dont even watch the Oscars. But the winners matter. It's probably the only Hollywood award that truly carries weight.


The Oscar seems to transcend the movie industry and puts it's winner in a new strata of social fame and recognition. A household name if you
will. Whether that is a good or bad thing I can't say but like RPB mentioned it has weight to it that an ESPY or even a Tony or Emmy doesn't
have. I'd venture to say it trumps the Grammy significantly as well but it is kind of comparing apples and oranges. They give away many more
Grammys.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2016 Oscars
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No African Americans anywhere.

This is going to be a story.

Especially since the movie about the Black Hero (Creed) got a nomination for the old white guy


I always support Stringer Bell so Im with them (despite not seeing or even knowing much about Beasts)


Why Are The 2016 Oscar Nominations So Overwhelmingly White?
Not a single black actor on the list. ​

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JAN 14, 2016

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It is no surprise that the Oscars are a declining institution; the Academy's taste is suspect and its judgment far from the final word. Which is why I've always hesitated to join in with #OscarsSoWhite. Not because I don't agree with the argument. Facts are facts: in the 87 years the Academy has given out awards, there've been only 32 African-American winners out of 2,900 candidates. I've hesitated because it implies that the Academy Awards matter more than they do.

But this year is different than all the others. Because this year, of all twenty actor nominations in the four main categories—best actor, best actress, best supporting actor, best supporting actress— there were not one was for a black actor, male or female. I guess that it is conceivable for there to be years when, through sheer randomness, there are no Oscar-worthy performances by African-American actors. But in 2016, we had Creed, Straight Outta Compton, and above all else, Beasts of No Nation. So the situation is just too absurd not to be infuriating.

Removing the question of race entirely for a moment: the Academy's failure to recognize Idris Elba's performance in Beasts is one of the most outrageous snubs in the history of the Oscars. There have been others that have shocked me more on purely aesthetic grounds—Robert Redford in All is Lost, which to me was one of the great performances of one of the greatest actors in the history of film. But All is Lost was a small film that didn't garner much attention, and it was understandable that the hermetically sealed world of Academy judges would miss it. This is not the case with Beasts of No Nation, which was released with a huge amount of attention on Netflix to a wide audience.

Go and see Beasts immediately if you have not yet, but let's just be clear about why Elba's performance was not just one of the year's best, but specifically Academy-worthy. Elba made the aesthetic decision to use his immense talent in the service of a vile character. At one point, he sexually abuses the boy-soldier who is at the center of the film. In another scene, he shows the boy how to kill with a machete. These are unforgettable moments, and they are hugely risky for a guy who could basically wait around to be named the next James Bond. It was a dangerous, risky performance with a powerful political message—traditionally the absolute sweet spot for Academy Award nominations. Which is what makes his snubbing borderline bizarre.

But "bizarre" is obviously not the correct adjective in this case. At some point you have to ask yourself, what is the difference between Idris Elba and the actors who have been nominated? And I'm afraid there's really only one attribute that stands out. Not the talent. Not the choice of roles. Not the dedication to the craft. Not the performance.


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I really couldn't care less about the Oscars, but this is the first year in probably a decade where I at least knew more than half the movies nominated.

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No African Americans anywhere.

You like that?

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spmack wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
No African Americans anywhere.

You like that?

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spmack wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
No African Americans anywhere.

You like that?

KD Steve

:lol:

Of course 2 white guys got nominated for the Straight out of Compton screen play


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the academy has done this for years. they pick a few movies once in a while and hand out awards to minorities to try and save face. it's always been a predominantly white institution run by old white guys who always manage to fuck up dignity and respect to the industry somehow.

michael b. jordan deserved a best actor nod, and ryan coogler deserved best director. "creed" was a great achievement and one of my favorite films of 2015. "mad max" gets a best picture nod but not "creed"? that's quite an oversight.


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the academy has done this for years. they pick a few movies once in a while and hand out awards to minorities to try and save face. it's always been a predominantly white institution run by old white guys who always manage to fuck up dignity and respect to the industry somehow.

michael b. jordan deserved a best actor nod, and ryan coogler deserved best director. "creed" was a great achievement and one of my favorite films of 2015. "mad max" gets a best picture nod but not "creed"? that's quite an oversight.


Is it the old white guys or their wives that always seem to make sure there is some dumb ass period piece with English accents and probably Meryl Streep in it?

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the academy has done this for years. they pick a few movies once in a while and hand out awards to minorities to try and save face. it's always been a predominantly white institution run by old white guys who always manage to fuck up dignity and respect to the industry somehow.

michael b. jordan deserved a best actor nod, and ryan coogler deserved best director. "creed" was a great achievement and one of my favorite films of 2015. "mad max" gets a best picture nod but not "creed"? that's quite an oversight.

Not to mention, and its hard to even admit this, but Jordan was better than Stallone in Creed.


You're right. I was just saying it seems like they give one out to Denzel or Halle and then feel like "Ok, cool now we can go back to what we were doing"


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rogers park bryan wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
No African Americans anywhere.

This is going to be a story.

Especially since the movie about the Black Hero (Creed) got a nomination for the old white guy


I always support Stringer Bell so Im with them (despite not seeing or even knowing much about Beasts)


Why Are The 2016 Oscar Nominations So Overwhelmingly White?
Not a single black actor on the list. ​

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It is no surprise that the Oscars are a declining institution; the Academy's taste is suspect and its judgment far from the final word. Which is why I've always hesitated to join in with #OscarsSoWhite. Not because I don't agree with the argument. Facts are facts: in the 87 years the Academy has given out awards, there've been only 32 African-American winners out of 2,900 candidates. I've hesitated because it implies that the Academy Awards matter more than they do.

But this year is different than all the others. Because this year, of all twenty actor nominations in the four main categories—best actor, best actress, best supporting actor, best supporting actress— there were not one was for a black actor, male or female. I guess that it is conceivable for there to be years when, through sheer randomness, there are no Oscar-worthy performances by African-American actors. But in 2016, we had Creed, Straight Outta Compton, and above all else, Beasts of No Nation. So the situation is just too absurd not to be infuriating.

Removing the question of race entirely for a moment: the Academy's failure to recognize Idris Elba's performance in Beasts is one of the most outrageous snubs in the history of the Oscars. There have been others that have shocked me more on purely aesthetic grounds—Robert Redford in All is Lost, which to me was one of the great performances of one of the greatest actors in the history of film. But All is Lost was a small film that didn't garner much attention, and it was understandable that the hermetically sealed world of Academy judges would miss it. This is not the case with Beasts of No Nation, which was released with a huge amount of attention on Netflix to a wide audience.

Go and see Beasts immediately if you have not yet, but let's just be clear about why Elba's performance was not just one of the year's best, but specifically Academy-worthy. Elba made the aesthetic decision to use his immense talent in the service of a vile character. At one point, he sexually abuses the boy-soldier who is at the center of the film. In another scene, he shows the boy how to kill with a machete. These are unforgettable moments, and they are hugely risky for a guy who could basically wait around to be named the next James Bond. It was a dangerous, risky performance with a powerful political message—traditionally the absolute sweet spot for Academy Award nominations. Which is what makes his snubbing borderline bizarre.

But "bizarre" is obviously not the correct adjective in this case. At some point you have to ask yourself, what is the difference between Idris Elba and the actors who have been nominated? And I'm afraid there's really only one attribute that stands out. Not the talent. Not the choice of roles. Not the dedication to the craft. Not the performance.



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Where's Antonio Brown's nomination?


This is the Oscars, not the Grammys.

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People say Leo is a lock but he won't win. Redmayne will because the role is about a man having a shift change. Hollywood loves that shit.

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"the danish girl" isn't getting a ton of press as of late, and "the revenant" is. i agree that it's a hollywood darling to go for the extra special role (transgender in this case) but since he won last year, and leo has been denied so many times...maybe this will finally put him in.


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This is the appropriate response.

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