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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:17 am 
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So how do you feel about Camera Obscura? I kinda think of them as Belle & Sebastian: Expanded Bonus Coverage. "Razzle Dazzle Rose" and "Away With Murder" are as good as anything their fellow countrymen did.

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 Post subject: Re: Perfect Albums
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:39 am 
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To list Rolling Stones albums as perfect and then exclude Exile on Main Street is criminal.


Like I said earlier in the thread, Exile is a great record but there's filler on there. When you think about it, if you're calling a double "perfect" it means the band made two perfect records at once. I'm not sure anyone has done that. To me, the Stones have two perfect records- Sticky Fingers and Beggar's Banquet.

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For a live album, this is about as close to perfect as I've heard. First set is all solo acoustic to raucous applause from the British crowd.
2nd set he plugs in with The Hawks and the audience starts to turn on him. Great set list and it's a phenomenal performance all around.
I put it in this afternoon and was reminded just how good it was. ( I realize this doesn't fit into the studio album mold, just thought of
this thread when listening )


1. "She Belongs to Me" 3:27
2. "4th Time Around" 4:37
3. "Visions of Johanna" 8:08
4. "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" 5:45
5. "Desolation Row" 11:31
6. "Just Like a Woman" 5:52
7. "Mr. Tambourine Man" 8:52

Disc 2 (with The Hawks)
No. Title Length
1. "Tell Me, Momma" 5:10
2. "I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)" 6:07
3. "Baby, Let Me Follow You Down" 3:46
4. "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" 6:50
5. "Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat" 4:50
6. "One Too Many Mornings" 4:22
7. "Ballad of a Thin Man" 7:55
8. "Like a Rolling Stone" 8:01

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:19 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:55 pm 
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The Life Pursuit

Wrong. You know that's wrong. You're posting it even though you know its wrong, who do you think you are? Brick? JORR? I will allow Drees Up In You amongst the pantheon of Dirty Dream II, TBWAS, Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying etc.

I give the edge to Boy and the Arab Strap. But if you took the ATP version of Judy and the Dream Horses and put it on If You're Feeling Sinister the edge would swing towards IYFS. The two are damn even.

The Boy with the Arab Strap is the better of the two you mentioned. It's one of those that without achieving moments of transcendent greatness, still makes a great through listen, like Broken Social Scene, Details, More Songs About Buildings and Food, among others. If You're Feeling Sinister has higher highs in "Fox in the Snow" and "Dylan in the Movies," but I find myself going to it much less often. Like I said in your school thread, I'd be horrified to find out how many times I've played TBWTAS over the years. It's one of my favorite distance-running go-tos, right next to Summerteeth and Skylarking. I also went through a phase where I always had it on during crossword puzzles and high-stress games of Mahjongg Solitaire. These would seem to be all the characteristics of a capital-letters Favorite Album, but I keep pulling back on that.

I know the B&S purists (not sure whether you are one) don't like anything from Dear Catastrophe Waitress on, but I love The Life Pursuit. There's not a skippable track until "Act of the Apostle II," which drags like hell after all the perfectly crafted songs ahead of it: not just "Dress Up in You," which is pantheon for sure, but "Sukie in the Graveyard," "White Collar Boy," and those call-and-responses on "Another Sunny Day," I mean, the whole album is sunny. Great summer album from people in a country that doesn't even see the sun. I just wish the album dropped "Mornington Crescent," which drags even more, and ended with "For the Price of a Cup of Tea," which I unashamedly love and which a longtime internet friend of mine pooh-poohed in an identical argument, calling it "a Mentos ad." He wasn't wrong but I love it anyway.

Also, the best two B&S songs are both non-album tracks: "Lazy Line Painter Jane" and "Your Cover's Blown."

I'm with you on the background quality of The Boy w/ the Arab Strap. I know and enjoy Sleep the Clock Around or Dirty Dream II but I dont think I have ever listened to one song off that record individually. It always starts with Brilliant Career and goes in the exact same order every time. Maybe I should shuffle play it.

Push Barman to Open Old Wounds is loaded with good stuff. I think everyone agrees The State I Am In is amongst their best. Lazy Line Painter Jane always kind of reminded of Lou Reed (in a good way), but dont exactly know why.

Camera Obscura is OK. I dont think they capture the magic that B&S did, maybe its the lyrics.


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 Post subject: Re: Perfect Albums
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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To list Rolling Stones albums as perfect and then exclude Exile on Main Street is criminal.


Like I said earlier in the thread, Exile is a great record but there's filler on there. When you think about it, if you're calling a double "perfect" it means the band made two perfect records at once. I'm not sure anyone has done that. To me, the Stones have two perfect records- Sticky Fingers and Beggar's Banquet.

London Calling is perfect also.
I also dont know where the filler is on Exile. Loving Cup? You wouldn't actually call Ventilator Blues filler would you?

One thing LC and Exile have in common is that they both close on one of the album's weaker songs. If there is a fault to find in them that would be it, LC should end on Revolution Rock and Exile should end on Shine A Light. However those imperfections will not stop me from calling both of them perfect.


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Lazy Line Painter Jane always kind of reminded of Lou Reed (in a good way), but dont exactly know why.


Probably because it's about a homeless girl getting an STD. It's "Street Hassle" on Prozac.

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I also dont know where the filler is on Exile. Loving Cup? You wouldn't actually call Ventilator Blues filler would you?


Yeah, "Ventilator Blues" is less than great. Also "Casino Boogie", "Let It Loose", and "Soul Survivor". There's about one track per side that I'd call filler. They're not terrible songs, just things that wouldn't be on an album I'd call perfect. I'm not sure what kind of shape "Plundered My Soul" was in back in 1971, but if they could have shined it up the way they eventually did, it's better than all the songs I mentioned.

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