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Did he really do that? I can't find actual confirmation online.

Im 87% sure it's a photoshop job gone Chi-ral


And now the Catholic church is short one Tom Murphy


I'm 100% sure it wasn't photoshopped..you sawed off little shit

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Did. Not. Happen.

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Did he really do that? I can't find actual confirmation online.

Im 87% sure it's a photoshop job gone Chi-ral


And now the Catholic church is short one Tom Murphy


I'm 100% sure it wasn't photoshopped..you sawed off little shit

Are you going to apologize if you're wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: Father Pfleger
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I dont think any flag should fly above Old Glory in this country



Ok then we agree. It is the law.


I'm sure that's not true. It's a protocol.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the national flag of the United States of America. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but the penalty described in Federal Law 18 USC Section 700 for failure to comply with it is not enforced.


Man, could they get more ambiguous? In any case, there's probably a damn good reason for non-enforcement. I doubt such law could withstand Constitutional muster.

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 Post subject: Re: Father Pfleger
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Did he really do that? I can't find actual confirmation online.

Im 87% sure it's a photoshop job gone Chi-ral


And now the Catholic church is short one Tom Murphy


I'm 100% sure it wasn't photoshopped..you sawed off little shit

Are you going to apologize if you're wrong?

Of course......and if Mr. Know-It- All is wrong ....what will you do?

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 Post subject: Re: Father Pfleger
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I have no problem admitting Im wrong.


Is there any source other than Facebook comments that has this picture?


If this was real it would be a huge story covered by actual news outlets.

He posted a status yesterday saying the flag was at half mast for the Chicago murders. Then someone (one of his many haters) went to work on photoshop.


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 Post subject: Re: Father Pfleger
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I am uncomfortable with any display of nationalism in Catholic churches. Why should a church recognize the country of its situs? The church should be above such displays. I don't even like the recognition of national holidays like 4th of July at church.

It profanes the sacred in my opinion.

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I am uncomfortable with any display of nationalism in Catholic churches. Why should a church recognize the country of its situs? The church should be above such displays. I don't even like the recognition of national holidays like 4th of July at church.

It profanes the sacred in my opinion.


It all began falling apart with Vatican II and the move away from the Latin mass.

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I have no problem admitting Im wrong.


Is there any source other than Facebook comments that has this picture?


If this was real it would be a huge story covered by actual news outlets.

He posted a status yesterday saying the flag was at half mast for the Chicago murders. Then someone (one of his many haters) went to work on photoshop.


I just saw a clip from Fox of them taking the flag down :shock: It has been reported that he is know flying the flag upside down

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This is a pretty good advertising campaign.

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 Post subject: Re: Father Pfleger
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I have no problem admitting Im wrong.


Is there any source other than Facebook comments that has this picture?


If this was real it would be a huge story covered by actual news outlets.

He posted a status yesterday saying the flag was at half mast for the Chicago murders. Then someone (one of his many haters) went to work on photoshop.


I just saw a clip from Fox of them taking the flag down :shock: It has been reported that he is know flying the flag upside down

You saw a clip on Fox chicago of someone taking down the Chiraq flag?

Link?


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 Post subject: Re: Father Pfleger
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
It has been reported that he is know flying the flag upside down


That's a distress signal, Walt. It's not a show of disrespect. (I learned that from Robert Redford in The Last Castle.) Pfleger's community is in distress.

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This is a pretty good advertising campaign.

Did it work on you?

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It has been reported that he is know flying the flag upside down


That's a distress signal, Walt. It's not a show of disrespect. (I learned that from Robert Redford in The Last Castle.) Pfleger's community is in distress.

And Pfleger did that in 2009.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This is a pretty good advertising campaign.

Did it work on you?
Nope. Still don't care about poor people.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I have no problem admitting Im wrong.


Is there any source other than Facebook comments that has this picture?


If this was real it would be a huge story covered by actual news outlets.

He posted a status yesterday saying the flag was at half mast for the Chicago murders. Then someone (one of his many haters) went to work on photoshop.


I just saw a clip from Fox of them taking the flag down :shock: It has been reported that he is know flying the flag upside down

You saw a clip on Fox chicago of someone taking down the Chiraq flag?

Link?

when I find it I 'll put it up

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I am uncomfortable with any display of nationalism in Catholic churches. Why should a church recognize the country of its situs? The church should be above such displays. I don't even like the recognition of national holidays like 4th of July at church.

It profanes the sacred in my opinion.


It all began falling apart with Vatican II and the move away from the Latin mass.


I wouldn't know.

I'll have to take a look on Holy Thursday if the Opus Dei church has an American flag inside

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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
I am uncomfortable with any display of nationalism in Catholic churches. Why should a church recognize the country of its situs? The church should be above such displays. I don't even like the recognition of national holidays like 4th of July at church.

It profanes the sacred in my opinion.


It all began falling apart with Vatican II and the move away from the Latin mass.


I wouldn't know.

I'll have to take a look on Holy Thursday if the Opus Dei church has an American flag inside



Where's that? St. Mary of the Angels?

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Still cant find any mention of this on any media other than the aforementioned facebook comment sections.


Here is his post from yesterday morning



Father Michael Pfleger
February 2 at 7:17am ·
We have an American tradition of flying the flag half mast when there is some American tragedy or loss of life.....Well, With Chicago Violence in January being the worst in over 16 years, i believe we are indeed experiencing an American Tragedy and certainly a loss of LIVES....so this morning WE LOWERED OUR AMERICAN FLAG TO HALF MAST and it will remain that way until this surge of Violence STOPS...I invite other churches and schools to do the same...


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Just heard a report on AM780 that the American flag was flying upside down at half mast under the Chi Raq flag. A veterans group went to protest and Pfleger took down the Chi Raq flag. I don't recall if they said the American flag is now flying right-side up.


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Just heard a report on AM780 that the American flag was flying upside down at half mast under the Chi Raq flag. A veterans group went to protest and Pfleger took down the Chi Raq flag. I don't recall if they said the American flag is now flying right-side up.

Thanks Tad

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Just heard a report on AM780 that the American flag was flying upside down at half mast under the Chi Raq flag. A veterans group went to protest and Pfleger took down the Chi Raq flag. I don't recall if they said the American flag is now flying right-side up.

Thanks Tad

That's not a link to anything.

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This is the only story out there that I could find that even references a Chiraq flag being flown:

http://patch.com/illinois/beverly-mtgreenwood/beverly-parishioners-want-fr-pfleger-dis-invited-anti-violence-panel-0

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On Wednesday, someone posted a photo allegedly of a “Chi-Raq” flag flying above a half-mast American flag outside of St. Sabina Church in the city’s violence-plagued Auburn-Gresham neighborhood, where Pfleger is pastor, on a neighborhood Facebook page in the 19th Ward. The photo was shared 927 times.

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Tad Queasy wrote:
Just heard a report on AM780 that the American flag was flying upside down at half mast under the Chi Raq flag. A veterans group went to protest and Pfleger took down the Chi Raq flag. I don't recall if they said the American flag is now flying right-side up.


That's not really confirmation as far as I'm concerned. It could mean that someone called in and stated the Chiraq flag was up there after having read it on Facebook. A bunch of retirees might have then grabbed their free McDonald's coffee and rushed over there to find no Chiraq flag and then took credit for Pfleger "taking it down".

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Well, If this is legit, then I was wrong and Im shocked it's getting almost no coverage


Was this Vandalism? Tad, did the report say Phleger put the Chiraq flag up?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
Just heard a report on AM780 that the American flag was flying upside down at half mast under the Chi Raq flag. A veterans group went to protest and Pfleger took down the Chi Raq flag. I don't recall if they said the American flag is now flying right-side up.


That's not really confirmation as far as I'm concerned. It could mean that someone called in and stated the Chiraq flag was up there after having read it on Facebook. A bunch of retirees might have then grabbed their free McDonald's coffee and rushed over there to find no Chiraq flag and then took credit for Pfleger "taking it down".

That would jibe with this post...


Tom Russ shared Julie Grace's photo.
1 hr ·
The flag at St. Sabina is flying properly I want to thank the American Lawmen ,American Veterans Motorcycle Riders, channel 32 and channel 2, News Radio WBBM, and all the people that shared my post. Some times the good guys win
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Tad Queasy wrote:
Just heard a report on AM780 that the American flag was flying upside down at half mast under the Chi Raq flag. A veterans group went to protest and Pfleger took down the Chi Raq flag. I don't recall if they said the American flag is now flying right-side up.

Thanks Tad

That's not a link to anything.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/02/04/ ... st-sabina/

The radio report from WBBM's Mike Krauser is there, too.


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From Tad's link...

Kevin Scott arrived to see the American flag at half-mast and upright Thursday morning, and the Chi-Raq flag gone.

“That tells you one thing. He knew it was wrong,” he said.

Pfleger said he told the church’s maintenance man to lower the flag to half-mast, but when the maintenance man did that, he didn’t lower the Chi-Raq flag as well. The Chi-Raq flag has since been removed, and the American flag is flying at half-staff.


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