You have not so conveniently neglected to mention the concluding sentence Vegan.

You often make 3 mistakes in your "logical" deductions regarding the bulls.

You are subject to three fallacies in your analysis of the Bulls.

1." Appeal to ignorance" Bulls would be better if Thibs were coachimg.

2. "Appeal to emotion". Hoiberg sucks. Always a basic premise for you. Any analysis of Hoiberg is always peppered with some element of emotion for you

3. "Ad Hominem". Any Analysis of Hoi berg will always include the personal attack from you.

I actually took a logic class in college and I'm familiar with the 12 forms of logical fallacies that you referenced last night. Didn't have to Google it just wanted to demonstrate how you are guilty of it also.

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Are you ever going to address the lone outlet reporting there was a trade proposal?

What is your opinion on the fact that the only entity reporting this trade proposal is a college radio station...three kids hosting a weekly one hour program. What credibility can you honestly give them?

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Well thanks for admitting you've knowingly made fallacious arguments, like "If you say that you don't want someone traded then you "think" they are untradeable."

Whatever you've summarized above does not represent my arguments, and I won't repeat them here because we've discussed them for months and you obstinately return to the same talking points and questions as if no discussion ever took place.

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Yibada also reported it too. I have read some of their stuff over the past yr. It doesn't mean that it's untrue though. There was also a time when Woj. was an unknown reporting stories too. If it is true then it is an assessment of Butler's value. If not then it's an untrue report.

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Again, not really. What you cited was a rumor, and the word "rumor" is pasted all over the article and report. That word is there precisely to separate it from what you want to believe about it - that it's a story based in fact that can either be proven or disproven. Rumors don't work that way and I'm sorry you think you there is no difference between a rumor and a report.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

I don't want him traded for Oladipo. You are good at parsing words. That was my next sentence and you failed to mention it. You cherry pick quotes. I haven't thought about trading Butler to be honest. I probably would lean towards keeping him. I think he needs to be a third option if you are going to be a contender. "Jimmy's" team gets you nowhere. You are not going to get a franchise player for him.

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No, they DID NOT. They reported that someone else was reporting it. That is a very important distinction. No one has claimed that they spoke to their sources and their sources confirmed any proposal or talks were ongoing. In fact, another small time journalist reported that the talks definitely did not happen.

Not one accredited NBA journalist has put their name anywhere near this rumor.

I'd bet good money it never occurred.

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All trade rumors are rumors. It's only not a rumor once it becomes an actual trade. Come on. The more this goes it becomes obvious that you guys are disagreeing merely for the sake of disagreeing. That is rather unbecoming of a credible poster.

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There was no need to mention the next statement because you categorically stated that if someone doesn't want so and so traded, then they think that player is untradeable. Period. You can fix that up be simply retracting that assertion.



That's not true. ESPN or whomever can confirm a rumor by either reporting the rumored trade is taking place, or that the rumored trade was in fact discussed but ultimately turned down by one or both parties.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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If they reported what someone else reported, isn't that by definition still reporting it?

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No. Their story is that some small time kids out of Orlando are reporting a trade discussion. Not that Chicago actually proposed the deal.

Yibada...that Orlando newspaper you linked earlier...MLBtraderumors.com ...they all do the same thing. Compile the rumors / talk. They serve as aggregators.

That doesn't mean they are reporting the same thing or giving credence to the rumor.

CSR's Twitter has slightly more followers than my Twitter does...and I don't even use Twitter.

And you know what...I just spoke to sources inside the Blackhawks organization and I'm reporting that the Blackhawks are currently discussing a trade sending Patrick Kane to Colorado in exchange for Nathan MacKinnon, Gabriel Landeskog and the Avalanche's unprotected 2016 first round draft pick.

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I didn't know that ESPN is the only source for sports info. Thanks. I will remember that the next time someone lets Chris Broussard have it.

I really don't know your point regarding untradeable either. I have 6-7 wing players that I'd rather have than Butler. I posted that in another thread. If I'd parsed through all the guys in the league I'd probably find 30-40 that I'd take over Butler.

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This just in; Colorado Avalanche decline Chicago Blackhawk's proposal. Patrick Kane now has no trade value. Also not a franchise player.

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