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Nevermind most of that is bullshit. I've seen others floating around on FB that are just as bad.

You're saying he wasn't talking to the Pentagon about arresting Obama?

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Guy had a great mind for the law. Whether you agree with his viewpoint, it was a very important viewpoint to have as part of the SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS should have the best minds in law that see things in different ways. This way they can appropriately challenge each other, as well as those that are bringing cases to their court. Losing Scalia will be a huge blow to the SCOTUS for that reason. Hopefully they don't replace him with just anyone to please a political base. Replace him with a great mind with a passion for law and not politics.


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Guy had a great mind for the law. Whether you agree with his viewpoint, it was a very important viewpoint to have as part of the SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS should have the best minds in law that see things in different ways. This way they can appropriately challenge each other, as well as those that are bringing cases to their court. Losing Scalia will be a huge blow to the SCOTUS for that reason. Hopefully they don't replace him with just anyone to please a political base. Replace him with a great mind with a passion for law and not politics.







Please, every appointee is a political decision.. Scalia was the guy who believed in creationism. We don't need that.

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Please, every appointee is a political decision.


True, but Supreme Court appointments have often yielded unexpected results.

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I thought this story today from David Axelrod was pretty good...apparently when it came time for Obama to nominate his first justice, Scalia told Axelrod to nominate Elena Kagan.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/14/opinions/david-axelrod-surprise-request-from-justice-scalia/index.html


I think that says a lot about him.

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Please, every appointee is a political decision.


True, but Supreme Court appointments have often yielded unexpected results.


True. Not so much recently though.

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Here is what his colleagues have said in their statements. I though Bader-Ginsburg was interesting.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /80375976/

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lipidquadcab wrote:
I thought this story today from David Axelrod was pretty good...apparently when it came time for Obama to nominate his first justice, Scalia told Axelrod to nominate Elena Kagan.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/14/opinions/david-axelrod-surprise-request-from-justice-scalia/index.html


I think that says a lot about him.



Elena was the lawyer for 2 Live Crew defending them against obscenity charges in 1989.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2010/07/ ... y-homegirl

Her brief in the case is one of legal brilliance.

This thread highlights quite well the difference between actual reality, and those who live in the 30 second news cycle. Scalia was nothing like the press portrayed him.

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Michael Dukakis was a law school classmate of Scalia:

Good, good. So I wanted to ask you about the Supreme Court. If you were Hillary Clinton or Marco Rubio—

What would I be doing? I’d be pointing out that if you are a constitutionalist, or an originalist, whatever those terms mean—because they really mean nothing. You know, Nino [Scalia] was a classmate of mine at law school. He was no more an originalist than the man on the moon.

OK.

What was originalist about Bush v. Gore? What was originalist about the Second Amendment decision? What was originalist about Citizens United for God’s sake, Isaac? We have been regulating campaign contributions since the late 19th century. Where in the Constitution does it say that money is speech? Originalism? Are you kidding me? But in any event, if you believe that, then the president has a solemn responsibility to make a nomination and the Senate has a solemn responsibility to consider it seriously, right?


How well did you know Scalia at law school?

Not well. It was an interesting class. Scalia, myself, Paul Sarbanes, Bill Ruckelshaus. But in those days, Isaac, we had a class of 475 that was divided in thirds. So you got to know your section very well. But I didn’t know who Scalia was until the last semester of my last year, when I took a class called Federal Courts and the Federal System, with a great man named Henry Hart. It is 1960. We are in the middle of the civil rights revolution. And there’s this guy in class who begins engaging Professor Hart every day in these long dialogues over whether it was appropriate for federal judges to reach in and take cases away from Southern criminal courts, in cases where, as everyone knew, if you were a black defendant, forget it. And this went on for about three weeks. [Laughs.] I finally turned to the guy next to me and said, “Who the hell is that guy?” He said, “That’s Scalia, he’s on the law review.” And I said, “Does he know what it’s like to be black in the South?” A bright guy—yeah. But he was to the right of Marie Antoinette for Christ’s sake. There was no consistency in his so-called philosophy. Money is corporate speech. This is all preposterous.



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Scalia's Hunting Trip Was a Gift From a "Friend" Who Had Business Before the Supreme Court Last Year

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There are questions related to the trip/vacation itself. Apparently it was all paid for by JB Poindexter, who owns the ranch/resort and a billion-dollar manufacturing company. The SCOTUS had recently refused to hear a discrimination case brought by one of their former employees. Hmmm...

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Hey, that's not polite! Seacrest and FF are still mourning that racist POS.

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There are questions related to the trip/vacation itself. Apparently it was all paid for by JB Poindexter, who owns the ranch/resort and a billion-dollar manufacturing company. The SCOTUS had recently refused to hear a discrimination case brought by one of their former employees. Hmmm...


These votes are not public knowledge that I'm aware of.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+doe ... 8&oe=utf-8


The Supreme Court decides to hear a case based on at least four of the nine Justices of the Supreme Court agreeing to grant the Petition for Certiorari. If four Justices agree to grant the petition, the Supreme Court will consider the case.

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Hey, that's not polite! Seacrest and FF are still mourning that racist POS.



I'm happy that you are amusing RPB.

He seems a bit cranky lately.

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When Antonin Scalia was found dead in his bed on a ranch in West Texas, conspiracy theorists immediately questioned the circumstances behind Scalia's death: Were there signs of a struggle? Why wasn't an autopsy performed? Was he in poor health? But new evidence suggests it might be more useful to examine not the cause of Scalia's death but the circumstances of his vacation. According to a report by the Washington Post, the associate justice was on a hunting trip at the 30,000-acre luxury resort of John B. Poindexter, owner of J.B. Poindexter & Co., a Houston manufacturing firm. The Supreme Court last year declined to hear a case involving an age-discrimination lawsuit against Poindexter's company.


Apparently Poindexter (who is not, by the way, the John M. Poindexter of Reagan-era scandal fame) hosts large gatherings at the ranch "two or three times a year." Scalia wasn't charged for his stay, but Poindexter denies paying for the justice's trip to Texas. "I did not pay for the Justice’s trip to Cibolo Creek Ranch," he wrote in an email to the Post. "He was an invited guest, along with a friend, just like 35 others." He went on, "The Justice was treated no differently by me, as no one was charged for activities, room and board, beverages, etc. That is a 22-year policy." Scalia presumably would've noted the event on his expense report, but such reports don't detail who is involved with events alongside justices. If Scalia had survived the trip, Poindexter's involvement would likely have gone unnoticed.

This isn't the first time Scalia has forgone the Caesar's-wife appearance of extreme propriety for a good hunting trip. In 2004 Scalia joined Dick Cheney at a private camp in southern Louisiana while Cheney was the subject of a lawsuit over his energy task force. Legal experts questioned whether Scalia ought to be shooting game with a man he might be forced to convict. In response, Scalia said only, "I do not think my impartiality could reasonably be questioned." He also filed a 21-page argument detailing why he refused to sit out the case. The quail have declined to comment.


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There are questions related to the trip/vacation itself. Apparently it was all paid for by JB Poindexter, who owns the ranch/resort and a billion-dollar manufacturing company. The SCOTUS had recently refused to hear a discrimination case brought by one of their former employees. Hmmm...


These votes are not public knowledge that I'm aware of.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+doe ... 8&oe=utf-8


The Supreme Court decides to hear a case based on at least four of the nine Justices of the Supreme Court agreeing to grant the Petition for Certiorari. If four Justices agree to grant the petition, the Supreme Court will consider the case.



That sounds to me like they allow the minority in certain cases to decide to consider a case in some circumstances.

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There are questions related to the trip/vacation itself. Apparently it was all paid for by JB Poindexter, who owns the ranch/resort and a billion-dollar manufacturing company. The SCOTUS had recently refused to hear a discrimination case brought by one of their former employees. Hmmm...


These votes are not public knowledge that I'm aware of.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+doe ... 8&oe=utf-8


The Supreme Court decides to hear a case based on at least four of the nine Justices of the Supreme Court agreeing to grant the Petition for Certiorari. If four Justices agree to grant the petition, the Supreme Court will consider the case.



That sounds to me like they allow the minority in certain cases to decide to consider a case in some circumstances.


It takes less than a majority to hear any case that comes before the court.

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Can you imagine if he put a hunting holiday on his expense report? :lol:

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Hey, that's not polite! Seacrest and FF are still mourning that racist POS.

Huh? I haven't said anything positive or negative about Scalia in the entire thread.

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Scalia was into some weird-ass Da Vinci Code shit:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html

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Members of the worldwide, male-only society wear dark-green robes emblazoned with a large cross and the motto “Deum Diligite Animalia Diligentes,” which means “Honoring God by honoring His creatures,” according to the group’s website. Some hold titles, such as Grand Master, Prior and Knight Grand Officer. The Order’s name is in honor of Hubert, the patron saint of hunters and fishermen.

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The International Order of St. Hubertus, according to its website, is a “true knightly order in the historical tradition.” In 1695, Count Franz Anton von Sporck founded the society in Bohemia, which is in modern-day Czech Republic.

The group’s Grand Master is “His Imperial Highness Istvan von Habsburg-Lothringen, Archduke of Austria,” according to the Order’s website. The next gathering for “Ordensbrothers” and guests is an “investiture” March 10 in Charleston, S.C.

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Poindexter told CultureMap Houston that some of the guests dressed in “traditional European shooting attire for the boxed bird shoot competition” and for the shooting of pheasants and chukar, a type of partridge.

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In 2006, Foster was featured in The Post when he celebrated his 65th birthday with a six-day celebration in the Czech Republic. He flew his family and 40 Washington friends there to stay in Moravia’s Zidlochovice, a baroque castle and hunting park. The birthday bash included “tours of the Czech countryside, wine tasting, wild boar and mouflon (wild sheep) hunts, classic dance instruction and a masked costume ball.”


Welp, it's official, all these people fuck boys.

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I mean, I thought it was lazy when everyone went straight to the boy-fucking when he died, but now that we find out he belonged to an exclusive cabal of men who put on fancy outfits to shoot animals to "honor" them when not throwing masked costume balls in Moravian castles, well, I don't know, I just don't think you can do all those things and not sodomize boys.

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I mean, I thought it was lazy when everyone went straight to the boy-fucking when he died, but now that we find out he belonged to an exclusive cabal of men who put on fancy outfits to shoot animals to "honor" them when not throwing masked costume balls in Moravian castles, well, I don't know, I just don't think you can do all those things and not sodomize boys.

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Scalia was into some weird-ass Da Vinci Code shit:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html

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Members of the worldwide, male-only society wear dark-green robes emblazoned with a large cross and the motto “Deum Diligite Animalia Diligentes,” which means “Honoring God by honoring His creatures,” according to the group’s website. Some hold titles, such as Grand Master, Prior and Knight Grand Officer. The Order’s name is in honor of Hubert, the patron saint of hunters and fishermen.

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The International Order of St. Hubertus, according to its website, is a “true knightly order in the historical tradition.” In 1695, Count Franz Anton von Sporck founded the society in Bohemia, which is in modern-day Czech Republic.

The group’s Grand Master is “His Imperial Highness Istvan von Habsburg-Lothringen, Archduke of Austria,” according to the Order’s website. The next gathering for “Ordensbrothers” and guests is an “investiture” March 10 in Charleston, S.C.

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Poindexter told CultureMap Houston that some of the guests dressed in “traditional European shooting attire for the boxed bird shoot competition” and for the shooting of pheasants and chukar, a type of partridge.

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In 2006, Foster was featured in The Post when he celebrated his 65th birthday with a six-day celebration in the Czech Republic. He flew his family and 40 Washington friends there to stay in Moravia’s Zidlochovice, a baroque castle and hunting park. The birthday bash included “tours of the Czech countryside, wine tasting, wild boar and mouflon (wild sheep) hunts, classic dance instruction and a masked costume ball.”


Welp, it's official, all these people fuck boys.


Literally and figuratively. Scalia was also a leader in the DC Chapter of Opus Dei, the secretive and no doubt pedo Cult within the Catholic Cult. Scalia is featured prominently in the traitor Robert Hanssen's bio. Hanssen was also a big Opus Dei guy and recruited other cultists to fuck his wife while he filmed them. It's rumored that his daughters were involved as well. My Mother went to school with Hanssen at Taft and said he was a freak even back then.

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Literally and figuratively. Scalia was also a leader in the DC Chapter of Opus Dei, the secretive and no doubt pedo Cult within the Catholic Cult. Scalia is featured prominently in the traitor Robert Hanssen's bio. Hanssen was also a big Opus Dei guy and recruited other cultists to fuck his wife while he filmed them. It's rumored that his daughters were involved as well. My Mother went to school with Hanssen at Taft and said he was a Catholic freak even back then.
I guess I should go to church more.

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